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Did a throttle body sync with my homemade manometer

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So I'd been having some trouble with a surging or stuttering problem. Basically between 3k-4k RPMs the bike was really herky-jerky and would pop a bit when I chopped the throttle off to shift. It made for driving around town a pain in the ass. I couldn't notice any problems once the bike got above 4000rpms.

It already had a new air filter and new plugs. My TPS was off a bit so I set that back where it should be. I scurbed out the inside of the throttle bodies with some carb cleaner and a rag. None of theat really made a difference with the rough running.

I'd seen some other guys onine make their on manometer to sync the throttle bodies. I though that was a better option than spending over $100 to buy a new one, or spending even more to have the dealer look at it and do the adjustment.

I bought a roll of 1/4 I.D. clear tubing from the hardware store. I bought two 1/4 in T connectors. From NAPA I got the 5/32 black vacuum hose and the 4 adapters to connect the two different size of hoses. I had some spare pegboard at home already. The assembly is pretty simple from just looking at the pics. Then put a bit of automatic transmission fluid into one of the tubes. Some people use water, but it seemed like most people went with the AT fluid.

You connect one tube to each of the throttle bodies. Start the bike up and if the throttle bodies aren't set right each one will pull the tranny fluid to different levels inside the matching tube. You turn the adjusting screws on the throttle bodies until the fluid levels in each tube match all the other levels.

Once I got everything hooked up it only took about 10-15 minutes of adjusting to get all 4 throttle bodies set to the same level. The adjustment screws seemed a bit touchy. It didn't take much of a turn to make the fluid levels move a couple inches up or down the tube.

After it was done and everything put back together the bike is running great. I can pull away from stoplights without any more bucking around. Everything is smoothed out...maybe not quite like new, but very very close. I didn't realize how of a difference this was going to make. I'm glad I attempted this on my own. The whole set up was easily less than $20 and was pretty easy to do.
 

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I made a very similar device using two jars, two rubber corks, and some tubing, to sync the carbs on my 250 last spring. Very easy to do. Definately better than shelling out big bucks.
 
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Stupid question but did you leave one of the tubes open to the atmosphere? Purely on the basis that if you have a completely sealed system with all four cylinders pulling on the fluid about the same at the same time you potentially get a vapour lock and one of the cylinders will have to be dragging a lot harder as it doesn't just have to pull the fluid but has to "pull it back" against the vacuum of one of the other cylinders. Admittedly with the materials used its unlikely to completely seal and over time with the engine running will sort itself out but it might be why you found the adjustment screws to be a bit sensitive and its still not running as good as new.

Nice job otherwise and using tranny fluid is a good idea most setups end up using water and the manometers have to be meters in length and a bit too much throttle can end up drawing fluid through the engine which is bad.
 
#17 ·
Man you guys do a lot of work.

Cost $8 took me longer to drink the crappy starbucks than to build it, works like a champ. I tested it against the MAF voltages on my 675.
 

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I just did the carbs on my Bandit at 35k miiles;

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I used some spare 5W-20 but water would work better, lower viscosity means less sucked thru when a cylinder "inhales". Oil sucked in also tends to foul more than a bit of water- and its not a lot in any case. Helps to install an inline valve in each line (air control valve for an aquarium air pump, from pet store). Then you can close off the tubes until the carbs are close, then open them up for full sensitivity.

The engine idles much better, on/off throttle is much improved. I did a valve clearance last month, prev owner hadn't done them and they were all really tight. Reduced vibration a bunch.. nice!

Greg