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I can't lie. My zx14 saved me big and it didn't get great gas mileage. Somewhere around 37 or so mpg. I was riding it about 2000 miles a month for almost 3 years. If I had taken the truck that gets about 17mpg it would have cost a fortune.


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I can't lie. My zx14 saved me big and it didn't get great gas mileage. Somewhere around 37 or so mpg. I was riding it about 2000 miles a month for almost 3 years. If I had taken the truck that gets about 17mpg it would have cost a fortune.
Geez, can y'all say "deferred maintenance"?!?

I had a ZX-14 for 26K miles, so I can speak more directly about them. I never saw 37mpg on it except for pure interstate runs - maybe 32 was my average. But let's use his numbers.

72000 miles (claimed - really???) / 37 mpg = 1946 gallons of gas. The truck would burn 4235 gallons. I'll arbitrarily pick $3 /gallon for regular (not knowing when this three year period was), and $.20 more a gallon for premium for the bike. So the truck would cost $12,705 in gas, and the bike would cost $6,227. Wow! You saved $6,500 in gas money over three years!

Now let's look at tires. My actual, real tire rate for sport tires on a ZX-14 was ~3,500 miles. Let's be generous and call it 4,000. A set of tires with mounting - I bought tires on sale and took the wheels in myself - no less than $300. That's $5,400 just in TIRES. In a truck I'd expect to go through two sets in that period, at about $1000/set. So $5,400 - 2,000 = $3,400. Half that fuel savings is gone, just in tires.

ZX-14, per the manual, calls for a valve adjustment every 15K miles. That's 5 of those (the first is at 600 miles), I paid about $300 a pop with the associated service. There's half the remainder of savings - down to $1,200!

I got 18K out of my OEM chain and sprockets, and they could probably have gone further. Let's say 24K, so you need three sets at $200 a set (chain, front, and rear). $600. Half the remainder, again.

How about fork service? The shops I know charge $75 a leg if you have removed them yourself, should be done every year. That's $150 three times for $450. I replaced my wheel bearings at 24K, and steering head bearings should definitely be done before 72K. That'll bring you up to $600 even if you do your own work. Fuel savings - gone.

Now, you can nickel and dime this for awhile from this point, adding a set of brake pads and shocks for the truck; but I'm going to come back with a new shock and brake pads for the bike, because you sure aren't riding an OEM shock for 72K miles - but you see how it shakes out. The bike requires much more and much more EXPENSIVE service than a car does. People who say they are saving money are *usually* ignoring either maintenance on the bike, or the cost of having done that maintenance.

KeS
 
Geez, can y'all say "deferred maintenance"?!?

I had a ZX-14 for 26K miles, so I can speak more directly about them. I never saw 37mpg on it except for pure interstate runs - maybe 32 was my average. But let's use his numbers.

72000 miles (claimed - really???) / 37 mpg = 1946 gallons of gas. The truck would burn 4235 gallons. I'll arbitrarily pick $3 /gallon for regular (not knowing when this three year period was), and $.20 more a gallon for premium for the bike. So the truck would cost $12,705 in gas, and the bike would cost $6,227. Wow! You saved $6,500 in gas money over three years!

Now let's look at tires. My actual, real tire rate for sport tires on a ZX-14 was ~3,500 miles. Let's be generous and call it 4,000. A set of tires with mounting - I bought tires on sale and took the wheels in myself - no less than $300. That's $5,400 just in TIRES. In a truck I'd expect to go through two sets in that period, at about $1000/set. So $5,400 - 2,000 = $3,400. Half that fuel savings is gone, just in tires.

ZX-14, per the manual, calls for a valve adjustment every 15K miles. That's 5 of those (the first is at 600 miles), I paid about $300 a pop with the associated service. There's half the remainder of savings - down to $1,200!

I got 18K out of my OEM chain and sprockets, and they could probably have gone further. Let's say 24K, so you need three sets at $200 a set (chain, front, and rear). $600. Half the remainder, again.

How about fork service? The shops I know charge $75 a leg if you have removed them yourself, should be done every year. That's $150 three times for $450. I replaced my wheel bearings at 24K, and steering head bearings should definitely be done before 72K. That'll bring you up to $600 even if you do your own work. Fuel savings - gone.

Now, you can nickel and dime this for awhile from this point, adding a set of brake pads and shocks for the truck; but I'm going to come back with a new shock and brake pads for the bike, because you sure aren't riding an OEM shock for 72K miles - but you see how it shakes out. The bike requires much more and much more EXPENSIVE service than a car does. People who say they are saving money are *usually* ignoring either maintenance on the bike, or the cost of having done that maintenance.

KeS
Each person is going to have different results for sure. I was a bunch nicer on my tires than you for one because I would get an average of 8k miles for a set of PP2CT and more from pirelli angel st. Also a set of tires on my truck run me about 1500. I had 60k miles on the bike when I sold it so I didnt make a full 3 years on it. I did not change the bearings or shocks but I did have the shop check them both out to let me know if they needed it when I had it in for the valve adjustments. It seems to me that I saved a bunch by riding the bike as much as I did .... maybe I am fooling myself or maybe it is a good way to get the "need" for a bike by the wife.

Either way my savings go deeper than just from going to work but its not something that most people would need to take into account.
 
The biggest saving in London and much of Europe is time. A 3 hour car journey cut to 30 mins on a bike is a serious saving.
Irrelevant in the colonies where you can't split lanes or filter.

I don't really care how much money I save by commuting on a motorcycle in Mexico City, it's the time saved that is priceless...
 
Irrelevant in the colonies where you can't split lanes or filter.

I don't really care how much money I save by commuting on a motorcycle in Mexico City, it's the time saved that is priceless...
Yeah, keep yer guns, leave me lane splitting and high speed roads and disinterested police who rely on bright yellow sign posted boxes to catch speeders :-D
 
Here's what you do: keep the bike and buy a cheap used truck like a 2000 F150 for $4000 or less. Ride the bike daily, and only use the truck very little when you need to bring large items, people, or due to weather.

The key is riding the car/truck less and riding the bike more. Now if you're deciding between the truck and bike (not both), obviously the bike is better.
 
When gas prices went crazy a few years ago I had coworkers asking me if they should buy a bike to save money. I told them if they bought the right bike, yes. But then I explained to them about tires and maintenance, etc. Mostly it was guys who just wanted a bike and needed an excuse to tell their wives.
 
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