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A high school sophomore is suing a school district in Indiana after he was suspended for wearing a T-shirt bearing the likeness of an M-16 rifle and the text of the Marine Corps creed, reports the News Sentinel.

Nathan Griggs, 16, was suspended from Fort Wayne Community Schools in March because the tee shirt violated the school’s policy on offensive and violent clothing.

The offensive text, written by a Marine Corps general after the attack on Pearl Harbor, focuses on the relationship between a Marine and his or her rifle, and is also known as "My Rifle."


----Yup, the defenders of the country are all realy just terrible folks repeating a horrible mantra. How dare you have pride in your corps, your weapon, your duty?!
What were you guys thinking? Effective immediately, any reference in the Marine Creed to a "rifle" will be changed to "flower" and all references to there being "Many like it" will have to be deleted so as not to offend the small arms' individuality........
 

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Heh, I remember I got asked to turn my "Guns don't kill people, People kill people" T-shirt inside out. Also got in a bunch of shit for wearing my Jack Daniel's shirt to school.

School sucks.
 

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The danger of these "no-tolerance" stances in school is that it conditions the young 'uns to think that problems can be solved by rules or policy.

Then, they enter the real world and find out that rules and policy only affect those who willingly follow them. Violence (which I do not equate with guns), racial differences, and gender differences exist in the real world, and by ignoring these issues in schools instead of dealing with them just puts graduates at a greater disadvantage than generations past.
 

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Wonder if he'd have gotten in trouble for wearing a T-shirt of a surgeon holding a scalpel?
 

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Good job patriot act.
 

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This is my rifle. There are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of my enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.

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*turn your volume down!!!*
 

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I know it's not the same as some ohter shirts with guns might be but if you let him wear it then you have to let everyone wear them. I think they should have let him go with a warning though at most.
 

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TheSollyLama said:
Effective immediately, any reference in the Marine Creed to a "rifle" will be changed to "flower" and all references to there being "Many like it" will have to be deleted so as not to offend the small arms' individuality........
That's hillarious! ++1
 

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The danger of these "no-tolerance" stances in school is that it conditions the young 'uns to think that problems can be solved by rules or policy.

Then, they enter the real world and find out that rules and policy only affect those who willingly follow them. Violence (which I do not equate with guns), racial differences, and gender differences exist in the real world, and by ignoring these issues in schools instead of dealing with them just puts graduates at a greater disadvantage than generations past.
Very true. I'll only add that I think it sets said young 'uns up to believe the world is and or operates on an all or nothing, black and white basis with no grey areas left for actual reasoning or personal judgement. I graduated high school in 1990 (32 yrs. old now) and this was just beginning to gain a head of steam. Luckily, not everyone was, or was required, to be on board and I got away w/ some really fun and not entirely legit (but quite typical :alky ) shenanigans thanks to some pretty cool teachers.
 

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kaz thanks man that is a classic I love that movie.........
 

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The system is being pussified. Bring back Dodge Ball!
No shit huh...how the hell did that get outlawed :dunno
 

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Hey, I got in trouble for wearing a Spuds Mckenzki T-shirt because it promoted beer! Yeah yeah, I'm old... it was in the 80's
 

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The danger of these "no-tolerance" stances in school is that it conditions the young 'uns to think that problems can be solved by rules or policy.
I used to get really annoyed hearing about various "no-tolerance" policies. Now I find that if you substitute the word "intelligence" for "tolerance" the whole thing makes so much more sense.

It's tragic in a way. Schools claim to be teaching our children critical thinking and problem solving skills, yet refuse to practice such skills themselves.
 

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It's a matter of an agenda at work. An agenda that is promoted by liberals and pinkos.
It is an agenda of people that have no concept of selfless service, duty or honor. People that use patriotism as a punchline. People who despise those of us that have a sense of pride, patriotism, or duty. Because it points out that they do not.

Did you hear about the college professor that attacked a student that requested some information for a paper he was doing? The prof called him a mindless babykiller and denounced this GI's intelligence for serving his country.

This is the people that back such idiocy as what this kid went through. THey themselves are spineless and so easily hide behind freedoms only provided to them by people with a shred of honor. They are worse than useless. They are wastes of perfectly good protoplasm.
But it is a legacy of the 60's and now we see the same behavior and lack of selflessness in a current generation for whom life is OWED to them. Not something to be earned or defended.
 

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That is the one (of many) things that is wrong with high school. They set such strict dress codes. When I was in HS (late 80's) I got reprimanded for wearing a Corona t-shirt. BFD! Yet, when one gets to college teachers could care less if you showed up in a bathrobe and slippers! Or if you showed up for class at all. Oh the hypocrisy!


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The big problem as I see it is that these policies are created because people bitch and moan. Who has time to bitch and moan? Unemployed fuckers who don't work or contribute to society.

Do I have time to go lobby. No, I'm working so I can pay my taxes, buy my bike and live my life. My tax dollars are being spent supporting a bunch of lazy useless assclowns who take all their free time and bitch and moan about how I am oppressing them.

The politicians hear this and make laws to support the "vocal minority".

I fucking hate shit like this. When I was a kid, I got my assed kicked every day in grade school for one this or another. Other kids kicked my ass, I kicked a few myself. Now, fighting is not allowed and kids just rat on each other. It's the same thing as an adult now. Someone does something dumb and instead of kicking his punk ass, people sue. LAME.

People are turning into a bunch of pink wearing, limp wristed, cowards who hide behind laws created by others like them to protect them. Meanwhile, us hard working, taxpaying folk get shafted.

Man shit like this pisses me off.......

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Now, fighting is not allowed and kids just rat on each other. It's the same thing as an adult now. Someone does something dumb and instead of kicking his punk ass, people sue. LAME.
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Yeah I got into a lot of fights in grade school because I was always the new kid. But after every one of my fights, me and the person usually became friends in one way or another. The way things are now, kids are not allowed to figure out how to deal with adversity. They get in a fight and either get a gun and kill their opponent or they get the authorities involved which usually leaves the argument unsolved and the two fighters never get a chance to work out their differences. Nothing like a black eye to teach a loud mouth punk to shut his pie hole!
 
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