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EEfz6 said:
That doesn't mean that it did very well in that particular theater.
Exactly, it's more likely to have done poorly there. But let's just wait for FB to come up with some crazy statistic to prove us wrong.
 

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Fargin_Bastige said:
Again, here's a list.
A list which states the EXACT numbers I told you, since they come from
the same data I looked at. 3,370 Same Sex Households

Here's the correct page from the same site you are (mis)quoting:

Click Here

Allow me to quote for those who don't wish to click the link:

Percent of people in same-sex couples (statewide - UT) 0.30%.

that's three TENTHS of ONE PERCENT.. or 33.333 times smaller than your
bullshit quote of 10%.

Salt Lake County has 0.43% of people in same sex couples, with the vast
majority of them in SLC.

Sandy will be CONSIDERABLY lower than the state average. EMPHASIS on
CONSIDERABLY LOWER. Like 0.10% or lower.

(BTW, working in the Discover Card call center doesn't qualify you for "knowing
Sandy anymore than going to a Cubs game means you know Chicago)

Again "Fargin Bastige" you are lying to promote an agenda regarding this movie.

And you were caught.. red handed.

Now you're caught lying about lying.

Want to go some more?

Or do you just want to cry uncle and move on?

Allow me to suggest the latter.
 

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lndshrk said:
A list which states the EXACT numbers I told you, since they come from
the same data I looked at. 3,370 Same Sex Households

Here's the correct page from the same site you are (mis)quoting:

Click Here

Allow me to quote for those who don't wish to click the link:

Percent of people in same-sex couples (statewide - UT) 0.30%.

that's three TENTHS of ONE PERCENT.. or 33.333 times smaller than your
bullshit quote of 10%.

Salt Lake County has 0.43% of people in same sex couples, with the vast
majority of them in SLC.

Sandy will be CONSIDERABLY lower than the state average. EMPHASIS on
CONSIDERABLY LOWER. Like 0.10% or lower.

(BTW, working in the Discover Card call center doesn't qualify you for "knowing
Sandy anymore than going to a Cubs game means you know Chicago)

Again "Fargin Bastige" you are lying to promote an agenda regarding this movie.

And you were caught.. red handed.

Now you're caught lying about lying.

Want to go some more?

Or do you just want to cry uncle and move on?

Allow me to suggest the latter.
First off, it says the percentage is 3% (in that area). This has a plus or minus of 3%

Secondly, If you call architecting the SAN solution, call center, then you're a b***** idiot than I thought.

I may have been too high with the 10%, I will admit that, and give you the satisfaction of a mea culpa, but the .2% you're quoting is very low and, since there are more gays in more populated areas, you are using the rest of the state as an example. Seeing as it is the 10th least populace state, the rural areas skew the demographic, although SLC is not rural.

Call me a liar, if you will, but you still haven't posted anything other than this one thing.

AND you still haven't made your business case, you've touted.
 

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Business strategies, personal agendas and statistics aside, here's my problem with the film. The producers took an American classic, the Western, a type of film which typically portays one or two "good guys" and a band of "bad guys" and pits them against each other in a struggle for land, money, cattle, a woman, etc, and in one swift motion ruined all that is good and right in the classic interpretation of the Western film.

I was raised on Westerns; the Duke was one of my heros growing up. I carried the leather holster belt complete with little plastic bullets and dual chrome pistols on my hips for years, shooting anything that looked like a good target. When I was a little older, I was allowed to watch ol' Clint and his Dirty Harry movies which are not a far cry from the old Westerns, and Clint is still one of my heros. I've grown up with these guys and I've modeled myself after them in certain ways. The characters which Wayne and Eastwood portrayed in the movies I watched growing up were men's men, and their influence on me to be a man's man was very powerful.

I'm not a parent, but if I were I'd take my thoughts on this into consideration and I would not allow my children to see cowboys lusting over one another's corn holes. Rather, I'd take my children camping and teach them how to shoot a rifle and build a camp fire, and we'd have fun and they'd get something out of the experience that some homo cowboys could never teach them.

I'd cherish the media's attempts to get John Wayne and/or Clint Eastwood to comment on the homo film.
 

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If you decide, as a parent, to not let your kids see the film, good.

That's what we call parenting and is something that nobody tries to do nowadays. We'd just rather remove the material then ask the parents to do their job.

No kid should see this movie or and R movie, for that matter.

My favorite was when I saw Team America at the theater and heard a mom bitching out her 9ish year old kid about movie choice. Are people really that stupid?
 

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Are people really that stupid?
Yes.

Recall the CNN special report a few months ago about the (I think) Black Santa or Black Snowman t-shirts being sported by urban high school kids... of the half-dozen parents interviewed, not one had any idea of the meaning behind the symbol (wasn't it cocaine use? I'm clueless on stuff like this).
 

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I was raised on Westerns; the Duke was one of my heros growing up. I carried the leather holster belt complete with little plastic bullets and dual chrome pistols on my hips for years, shooting anything that looked like a good target. When I was a little older, I was allowed to watch ol' Clint and his Dirty Harry movies which are not a far cry from the old Westerns, and Clint is still one of my heros. I've grown up with these guys and I've modeled myself after them in certain ways. The characters which Wayne and Eastwood portrayed in the movies I watched growing up were men's men, and their influence on me to be a man's man was very powerful.
True.

They could have atleast started out with metrosexual cowboy movies and then gradually creat homosexual cowboy movies afterwards.
 

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Geowitz said:
True.

They could have atleast started out with metrosexual cowboy movies and then gradually creat homosexual cowboy movies afterwards.

BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:nfloor
 

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True.

They could have atleast started out with metrosexual cowboy movies and then gradually creat homosexual cowboy movies afterwards.
Awesome! Thanks for the laugh this morning! :lao
 

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First off, it says the percentage is 3% (in that area). This has a plus or minus of 3%
FB, these are the statistics YOU have quoted direct from
"gaydemographics.org".. staight from the 2000 Census PUMS.

I didn't make them up.. maybe math just isn't your bag baby.

Statewide, 0.30% of people in same sex couples.

Derived thusly.. 3,370 "same sex couples" = 6,740 "gays"

Which is 0.30% of the 2,233,169 total UT statewide population

In Salt Lake County, it's 1,964 couples = 3928 "gays"

Which is 0.437% of the 898,387 total Salt Lake County population.

Note that *I* didn't make these calculations, THEY did.

Although that doesn't matter.. because math, like physics.. just IS.

1 + 1 = 2, all day long.

Secondly, If you call architecting the SAN solution, call center, then you're a b***** idiot than I thought.
If you architected a Storage Area Network the way you (mis)use statistics,
I'm highly impressed. Which would you like to compare next? Business
success, wallet thickness/acct balance, or penis size? (None of which matter
but all of which you'd come up "short" :lao )

BTW, *I* don't have to make a business case for showing Brokeback or not.

Mr Miller did. It's HIS business..

I just have my 3 businesses to worry about.. he has alot more.
 

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lndshrk said:
FB, these are the statistics YOU have quoted direct from
"gaydemographics.org".. staight from the 2000 Census PUMS.

I didn't make them up.. maybe math just isn't your bag baby.

Statewide, 0.30% of people in same sex couples.

Derived thusly.. 3,370 "same sex couples" = 6,740 "gays"

Which is 0.30% of the 2,233,169 total UT statewide population

In Salt Lake County, it's 1,964 couples = 3928 "gays"

Which is 0.437% of the 898,387 total Salt Lake County population.

Note that *I* didn't make these calculations, THEY did.

Although that doesn't matter.. because math, like physics.. just IS.

1 + 1 = 2, all day long.



If you architected a Storage Area Network the way you (mis)use statistics,
I'm highly impressed. Which would you like to compare next? Business
success, wallet thickness/acct balance, or penis size? (None of which matter
but all of which you'd come up "short" :lao )

BTW, *I* don't have to make a business case for showing Brokeback or not.

Mr Miller did. It's HIS business..

I just have my 3 businesses to worry about.. he has alot more.
Oh, so you've resorted to penis jokes? Pretty intelligent. I admitted I fucked up on the statistics already. Again, though. You called me a liar on the hours before thing, it was in the text. Did I misrepresent that too?

And yes, you would come up short on everything you've listed anyway. Throw in looks, intelligence, riding ability, talent and the development of opposable thumbs too.
 

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You still haven't made the business case you claimed. There is no way of saying definitively that the movie would have driven business away. Not to mention that the group who was protesting it, wasn't protesting the theater in question.

AND the theater is not showing a movie on objectionable moral grounds and yet will show a movie about torture.

This is simply religious ignorance.

EDIT: In further reading on the subject, the Census only counted couples. There are estimates that this undercounts the population significantly. So, you still could be wrong.
 

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This is simply religious ignorance.
I think this religious ignorance card is being overused. We need to establish for a fact that the theater owner is Mormon (believe it or not you don't have to be Mormon to live in Utah).

And we should take into account that the LDS church did not make any kind of official statement condeming the movie or ask it's members not to see it. I think this is simply an area where the population has strong Christian morals and the general concensus among Christians, not just Mormons, is that homosexuality is wrong.

So maybe I'm just getting the wrong impression from you FB, but I don't want this to turn into a Mormon bashing issue.
 

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And yes, you would come up short on everything you've listed anyway. Throw in looks, intelligence, riding ability, talent and the development of opposable thumbs too.
You keep dreaming FB... that's all you've got.

I think I've aptly brought out your true character.. or should I say, lack thereof.

:bitchslap
 

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You keep dreaming FB... that's all you've got.

I think I've aptly brought out your true character.. or should I say, lack thereof.

:bitchslap
Again, you've done nothing. You brought up one thing and it's debatable.

Not to mention PM'ing me like an ass.

You haven't proven a damn thing. You still haven't proven it's a business decision. You said I lied about the hours before thing, which is wrong.

You haven't done a thing to prove my original assertion wrong.
 

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I think this religious ignorance card is being overused. We need to establish for a fact that the theater owner is Mormon (believe it or not you don't have to be Mormon to live in Utah).

And we should take into account that the LDS church did not make any kind of official statement condeming the movie or ask it's members not to see it. I think this is simply an area where the population has strong Christian morals and the general concensus among Christians, not just Mormons, is that homosexuality is wrong.

So maybe I'm just getting the wrong impression from you FB, but I don't want this to turn into a Mormon bashing issue.
I don't like any religion.

but, What groups are bashing the movie? It's just reality that this has become a religious issue.

Not singling anyone out, this just happens to be in an area with a large LDS population.
 

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You keep dreaming FB... that's all you've got.

I think I've aptly brought out your true character.. or should I say, lack thereof.

:bitchslap
He admitted his mistake, you can't admit that you really don't have a point to back you up.

You're just doing the typical "I know everything, because I know" bullshit.
 

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He admitted his mistake, you can't admit that you really don't have a point to back you up.

You're just doing the typical "I know everything, because I know" bullshit.
It's funny, because of the people who actually LIVE here in Utah, we all
understand why Larry Miller did what he did.. it was smart for his business.

The rest of you just don't get it.

Now, I'm not LDS.. I'm not sure if Poulsen is or isn't.. but this has NOTHING
to do w/ "religion".. it has everything to do with the fact that for the
majority of people in the Sandy Utah area, the concept of "Gay Cowboys"
is considered anywhere from "ridiculous" to "repulsive" and in no case is it
considered "hey, that's interesting"

It is THOSE people that are the customers of Jordan Landing.

I challenge both you and Fargin Bastige to come out here to Utah and I'll
personally take you down south to meet some REAL ranchers, hands, and
cowboys.. The real ones, not movie ones.. moving herd thru BLM lands and
the like. You can discuss the premise with them.

But enough of that.. the simple fact is that Larry Miller didn't show the movie
because he didn't want to.. and as a business OWNER he can do that.

DEAL WITH IT you WHINEY BASTARDS. :bitchslap
 

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You haven't proven a damn thing.
Actually, I have.. time and again.

In typical Daly-land liberal fashion anytime you put up a target, and someone
hits it.. you move the target and scream "You missed" ex-post-facto.

Maybe if you open up a Vegan restaurant, and after you have a great
clientele of customers you start serving rare beef.. you can get an idea
of why LM made the decision he did. It's called knowing your customer.

Oh wait.. I know.. "bad comparison". :upyours
 
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