[by9468840]

Hi everyone.

I've been recently practicing blipping the throttle while downshifting on my Triumph Speed Triple 08. Before even knowing such technique ever existed, twice I almost crashed my bike while downshifting to slow down for the red light right after a curve. Accidentally went down to 1st gear from 2nd at around 5-6k rpm, my rear locked at the curve exit and gave me a heart attack!

I later read about it in some performance riding techniques books and Ive been practicing it the last few weeks. Although I improved quite a lot, my downshifting is still not smooth enough. The rear lock up is not a problem anymore but when I downshift at low rpm and still blip the throttle, it shakes the bike when i release the clutch.

I was wondering if it is only good for higher rpm range..ie +4 or 5k and above? it doesnt seem to do any good on low rpm city riding. Do you also constantly apply it in your riding style?

 

[LDS]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease the clutch out.

 

[binx_19]

posting about wheelies and downshifting, what a winning combo.

 

[gtramontelli]

I do it automatically, but clutch control is really what you need to be practicing. If you downshift too much (to 1st, for example) you can usually tell before you lock up the wheel if you don't just pop the clutch out. For downshifting I usually just give the throttle a quick blip and the ease the clutch out slowly as LDS mentioned.

 

[MJ939]

Attempting wheelies on your 1000 cc bike when you don't know basic clutch control is not smart. You're asking for a bruising by posting these questions here. You needed to lurk more before posting.

 

[LessPeople_MoreRobots]

The more you can match the revs, the better. Less wear on your clutch.

Any time you switch gears, its best to make sure your RPMS are in the right range for the new gear at your current speed. THEN let your clutch out. Once you've ridden alot more, you'll be able to feel it, and it gets really smooth.

If you bang down a gear, and your revs are WAY wrong for the gear/speed you're in, then it can lock up the wheel. You may have heard the term 'slipper clutch' before. Its a special kind of clutch that will actually slip in that situation instead of locking up your wheel. Mind you, a slipper clutch is not going to save you from not knowing how to downshift, but it can help racers on the track in certain situations.

But yeah, if you just discovered that you can downshift, might want to wait a while on the power wheelies...

 

[TalkofDC]

for you....

just install a slipper if the bike doesn't already have one.

everyone else...

if serious about learning how to properly rev match would have closed this thread already.

 

[xcr0vvx]

Where did the OP ever mention wheelies?

Edit: Nevermind, just saw his other post...

:bitchslap

 

[kuno]

Sounds like a squid move to get attention. Why would you ever need to blip the throttle in everyday cruising?

 

[Squid Killer]

Why would you ever need to blip the throttle in everyday cruising?

+1

I dont even do it on the track.

 

[Tripped1]

for you....

just install a slipper if the bike doesn't already have one.

everyone else...

if serious about learning how to properly rev match would have closed this thread already.

Yeah, a $2100 dollar slipper is no substitute for proper technique.

 

[Tripped1]

Sounds like a squid move to get attention. Why would you ever need to blip the throttle in everyday cruising?

Why wouldn't you?

The idea is to not shock the drive train. Not to mention THAT way when you get suprised by a sharper then expected corner you can blip down at speed under braking without upsetting the chassis anymore then it needs to be. That way you don't have to "lay 'er down".

 

[TalkofDC]

Yeah, a $2100 dollar slipper is no substitute for proper technique.

clearly....

however teaching this OP how to rev match on a forum is just as pointless.

you missed the sarcasim.

 

[TalkofDC]

Sounds like a squid move to get attention. Why would you ever need to blip the throttle in everyday cruising?

NOPE.

it's called riding the bike. keeps things smooth.

I bet you're always ready to fuck b4 you help you lady get the slip n slide ready.

 

[LovemyKawiZX6R]

Sounds like a squid move to get attention. Why would you ever need to blip the throttle in everyday cruising?

Most of us dont have a slipper clutch so learning to properly blip the throttle while downshifting will prevent the rear from locking up and also to not put a lot wear on the clutch. So its a good thing to learn.

Edit: NVM...already been answered.

 

[Tripped1]

To be fair most bieks do come with slippers new anymore.

Mine don't, plus I have a hundred 10+ year old habits that I'm not going to stop doing because a slipper not make it a requirement.

 

[LovemyKawiZX6R]

i do it so often, that it has become something i naturally do when i downshift.

6 to 5 to 4 requires very little throttle blip since they are so close but the other require a little more. Where as to get in to first or second ( which is usually unnessary i think) u would need a lot more of throttle since those are your lowest gear.

 

[porky786]

Not locking up the rear tire is good, cause that's really bad, Sounds like your still not quite right, as it should be complete smoothness between downshifts. Sounds like you might be going to fast for the gear drop, and while not locking up the rear anymore, the big jerk sounds like its still close to locking up.

Are you using the brakes or trying to use the engine to slow , thats what it sounds like your trying to use the engine to much to slow.

and keep in mind, downshifting through the entire gear box is quicker than trying to throttle blip each gear while trying to hard brake into a slow corner. So its not something you have to engage with every downshift. But you need to know where your gear box is and how it will react to the speed level. Throttle blip can smooth transitions, but not a must do in every gear change, and can be time costly.

But its important to be smooth and competant with regular shifting and understanding each gears reaction to downshifting, before adding throttle blip to your skill package.

 

[kuno]

Most of us dont have a slipper clutch so learning to properly blip the throttle while downshifting will prevent the rear from locking up and also to not put a lot wear on the clutch. So its a good thing to learn.

Edit: NVM...already been answered.

I guess the context of what I said earlier was coming to a stop. Not downshifting to take a corner or anything of that nature. I guess I ride a little differently or something. If I'm coming to a stop I'm already doing less than 25 mph, I just downshift all the way before I need to stop. No strain on the transmission no wearing out the clutch.

 

[Diversion]

I guess the context of what I said earlier was coming to a stop. Not downshifting to take a corner or anything of that nature. I guess I ride a little differently or something. If I'm coming to a stop I'm already doing less than 25 mph, I just downshift all the way before I need to stop. No strain on the transmission no wearing out the clutch.

I do it sometimes just for fun but for everyday streetriding there is absolutely no need. I brake downshift engage, downshift engage...while breaking (even for corners) It all goes smooth and I have never been close to locking up.

Blipping is only really needed on the track when chasing laptimes.