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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1678707,00.html

Forget cameras - spy device will cut drivers’ speed by satellite
Dipesh Gadher, Transport Correspondent
IT IS the ultimate back seat driver. Motorists face having their cars fitted with a “spy” device that stops speeding.

The satellite-based system will monitor the speed limit and apply the brakes or cut out the accelerator if the driver tries to exceed it. A government-funded trial has concluded that the scheme promotes safer driving.

Drivers in London could be among the first to have the “speed spy” devices fitted. They would be offered a discount on the congestion charge if they use the system.

The move follows a six-month trial in Leeds using 20 modified Skoda Fabias, which found that volunteer drivers paid more attention as well keeping to the speed limit. More than 1,000 lives a year could be saved if the system was fitted to all Britain’s cars, say academics at Leeds University, who ran the trial on behalf of the Department for Transport (DfT).

It is part of a two-year research project into “intelligent speed adaptation” (ISA), which the department is funding at a cost of £2m. Results of the initial trial will be presented to ministers this week.

A study commissioned by London’s transport planners has recommended that motorists who install it should be rewarded with a discount on the congestion charge, which tomorrow rises to £8 a day.

The trial Skodas were fitted with a black box containing a digital map identifying the speed limits of every stretch of road in Leeds. A satellite positioning system tracked the cars’ locations.

The device compared the car’s speed with the local limit — displayed on the dashboard — and sent a signal to the accelerator or brake pedal to slow if it was too fast. The system can be overridden to avoid a hazard.

“The trials have been incredibly successful,” said Oliver Carsten, project leader and professor of transport safety at Leeds University.

The DfT says it has no plans to make speed limiters mandatory but admits that it is considering creating a digital map of all Britain’s roads which would pave the way for a national ISA system.

Edmund King, of the RAC Foundation, said limiters might make motorists less alert: “If you take too much control away the driver could switch on to autopilot.”
 

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Could you imagine how much it would cost to retrofit every vehicle on the highway?? :lol
 

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just another way for BIG BROTHER to keep watch on us while they do what ever they want

some new vehicles come with a "black box" that records G forces, speed, when brakes are applied, etc etc and they can be used after an accident against anyone and you also have to remember the speed passes alot of peolple use on toll roads can also be used to calculate your average speed D= R x T


those bastards haha
 

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mikem317 said:
George Orwell would be very pleased.
No kidding. This, along with losing your house to eminent domain because of higher tax revenue, almost has me ready to join bug-eyed's bandwagon :lao
 

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Keep in mind thats in the UK....I dunno if such a system would ever catch on here. I have a strong feeling it wouldn't. Too many car nuts here to ever let it get through.
 

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XR50R said:
just another way for BIG BROTHER to keep watch on us while they do what ever they want

some new vehicles come with a "black box" that records G forces, speed, when brakes are applied, etc etc and they can be used after an accident against anyone and you also have to remember the speed passes alot of peolple use on toll roads can also be used to calculate your average speed D= R x T


those bastards haha
Currently only Ford and Chevy have the black box and it only records at 5 sec. increments.
 

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What if you need to accelerate to get yourself out of a tight situation?
After a few deaths and the families sewing for a great deal of money this system would hit the can pretty quick, assuming it will be implemented.
 

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Last year we had a fatal crash where there was a debate on the speeds and cause. Both vehicles were Fords, an Excursion and a Sport Track Explorer (4 door truck). We knew the at fault vehicle because it cross 3 lanes and smashed head on into the other vehicle. The driver of the at fault was intoxicated (.28 according to the toxicology) and drove into the other vehicle. When the black box was pulled the at fault vehicle was traveling 78 mph on impact and the victim vehicle was traveling 68. Posted speed limit was 55. The insurance company for the at fault driver stated that if the victim's vehicle had not been speeding there would not have been a collision.

Not quite sure this system being developed is the best thing. I have to agree about what if you need to take a defensive driving tactic to avoid a collision and the system cancels it?? Plus how accurate can it be? Isn't there a 3-5 lag time on GPS tracking and co-oridination (minimum)?
 

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tip2001 said:
What if you need to accelerate to get yourself out of a tight situation?
After a few deaths and the families sewing for a great deal of money this system would hit the can pretty quick, assuming it will be implemented.
The article said there was an override device, but I'm sure it wouldn't be very intuitive though.
 

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It is going to be an electronic. They can be cut and by passed very easy. It will probably run throught the ignition to try and stop you from unhooking it. Just rewire what ever it is hooked to. You guys get to worked up about this stuff.
 

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Chinygyal said:
I'm sure just like everything else, there's a way around it to take them out or inactivate them
I doubt even if they got around to putting them on every single vehicle in about 20 years that there would be ways around it. I'm not worried. :beer
 
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