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It's hard to predict what will happen this election cycle. The Obama economy keeps chugging along, despite the ongoing attempts on its life by the crazy policies and policy shifts we have had for the last few years. The economy should boost Trump, although I'm still not convinced the economy will hold up through the end of 2020. There are too many mixed signals, but then that's been going on for a while. So who knows.

Fewer people have access to healthcare. That seems to make Republicans happy for some reason. Trump claims he's protecting access, but his administration is doing the opposite. It's pure speculation to say whether the voting public is smart enough to figure this out.

I don't know about anybody else, but my tax rate went up a bit. That's not going to help the economy if it's across the board. People who expected a refund won't get what they thought, and people who owe will owe more. That takes money out of the system at an unfortunate time.

Sure, the brownshirts in the Senate, led by Moscow Mitch let the perp off. That doesn't mean he's not guilty, nor does it mean he learned anything. I expect that Susan Collins is done for due to her vote. Trump will strut and boast, but he does that even though he's got nothing to boast about. As far as other places the GOP might have issues, I fully expect all kinds of shenanigans. The GOP has long whined that the Democrats do this or that, when in fact they are the people who are doing it. So it goes.
The "Obama economy". LOL. Obama presided over the most tepid "recovery" in modern history, but, to be fair, he inherited a hell of a mess. So, I think BOTH Obama and Trump get too much credit for a roaring economy. How long will it last? Nobody knows, but I suspect the immediate future is bright. I know leftists are hoping for the economy to tank, for that appears to be their only hope to get the Orange Man out of the White House.

Last nights debate was truly hilarious. IMO, NOBODY on that stage can beat Trump. Least of all Bernie the communist. While Bloomberg appeared shellshocked and unprepared, he made a few good points. If you held a gun to my head and said I had to vote for a Donk, it would be Bloomberg. At least he made is own money and is a capitalist, unlike the botched abortions like Sanders, Bootygieg, Amy and Quid Pro Joe.
 

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Lol,

A monkey with a pile of shit in both hands can beat Trump. Why do you think he’s working so hard to cheat in the election?

This is the group you need to look at. Non college educated white women. 64% voted for Trump. He’s not going to carry that in 2020.
You are letting your hatred of Trump cloud your judgement. Never good.
 

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You are letting your hatred of Trump cloud your judgement. Never good.
I have about as much hatred of Trump as you did Obama.

Did you hear the latest? A Dir. of National Intelligence aid briefed congress that Russia is AGAIN, running an OP to interfere with the 2020 election. AND, Russia is also working to impact the Democratic nominee. They obvious want Bernie and do not want Biden. Guess what, Biden is all but done so it’s working.

Say What?

So, what was Trumps reaction when he found out that this briefing was given LAST WEEK?

What did he do prey tell?

Did he thank anyone for protecting our democracy by bringing this to light so we can stop it?

What do the president do?

He FIRED the Dir. of National Intelligence! And then appointed another sycophant loyalist.

Say it ain’t so!

Your president wants to cheat his way to another win. He does not care if Russia blitzes our media with false stories maligning candidates in an effort to create apathy in democratic voting.

Yes, it worked in 2016! They stole the DNC voter info, and Russia knew exactly who they needed to push false info to about Clinton, to make people think she was running a kiddy porn site out of a pizza shop. Remember that crap?

I get why you like Trump, but he violates just about everything America stands for. It’s kinda sad.

I’m honestly waiting for a Republican to say this is not acceptable. I want to win but without Russian interference. Certainly won’t here Trump or McConnell say that.
 

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I have about as much hatred of Trump as you did Obama.

Did you hear the latest? A Dir. of National Intelligence aid briefed congress that Russia is AGAIN, running an OP to interfere with the 2020 election. AND, Russia is also working to impact the Democratic nominee. They obvious want Bernie and do not want Biden. Guess what, Biden is all but done so it’s working.

Say What?

So, what was Trumps reaction when he found out that this briefing was given LAST WEEK?

What did he do prey tell?

Did he thank anyone for protecting our democracy by bringing this to light so we can stop it?

What do the president do?

He FIRED the Dir. of National Intelligence! And then appointed another sycophant loyalist.

Say it ain’t so!

Your president wants to cheat his way to another win. He does not care if Russia blitzes our media with false stories maligning candidates in an effort to create apathy in democratic voting.

Yes, it worked in 2016! They stole the DNC voter info, and Russia knew exactly who they needed to push false info to about Clinton, to make people think she was running a kiddy porn site out of a pizza shop. Remember that crap?

I get why you like Trump, but he violates just about everything America stands for. It’s kinda sad.

I’m honestly waiting for a Republican to say this is not acceptable. I want to win but without Russian interference. Certainly won’t here Trump or McConnell say that.
Never hated Obama, just his mis-guided policies designed to reduce America's power and prestige....as he "fundamentally transformed the country". BTW, the reason we are stuck with Orange Man is because of Obama. Orange man seized the moment as a populist...as a result of Obama's destructive policies.

So....another Russian OP eh? So what? I mean really, so fucking what? Do you really belive Obama did NOT try to interfere in Israel's eleciton, trying his level best to get Bibi tossed from office? Where is your outrage on that? Rhetorical, I know you don't care.

Show me proof that even ONE vote was cast in 2016 by a Russian voting for Trum. Just one. I will wait.

You and your leftist friends in the media are simply trying to pivot from the failed argument that Russia got Trump elected in 2016 to the new narrative that they will do it "again" in 2020. What a load of crap that is, and you know it.

How about you trust Americans to actually vote for the person WE want. Stop parroting the leftist CNN horsecrap they are spewing to their few remaining viewers and just think for yourself.
 

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Is it against the law to receive and use stolen property? property you know is stolen.

This is a simple yes or no question.
Is it against the law, as a government employee, to destroy government issued cell phones and laptops with hammers and bleach bit?

Simple yes or no.

My point is this: do you think breaking the law with these assholes in Washington DC is unique to one party?

Hillary was a crook. Obama was a crook. Trump is a loudmouthed crook.
 

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Is it against the law, as a government employee, to destroy government issued cell phones and laptops with hammers and bleach bit?

Simple yes or no.

My point is this: do you think breaking the law with these assholes in Washington DC is unique to one party?

Hillary was a crook. Obama was a crook. Trump is a loudmouthed crook.
Calling Obama and Clinton crooks is really all you got to make yourself feel comfortable with this horrible President then fine.

But when the next Democratic President cheats to win, ignores the rule of law, and violates the constitution. You will be unhappy.
 

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Calling Obama and Clinton crooks is really all you got to make yourself feel comfortable with this horrible President then fine.

But when the next Democratic President cheats to win, ignores the rule of law, and violates the constitution. You will be unhappy.
Again, can you show me that even ONE vote was cast in 2016 by a Russian?

Until you can, you just believe what you want to believe. Countries will continue to attempt our elections, and we do the same. NONE of this is new. By the way, Obama knew this during his term and did absolutely ZERO to try to stop it. Why?
 

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Again, can you show me that even ONE vote was cast in 2016 by a Russian?

Until you can, you just believe what you want to believe. Countries will continue to attempt our elections, and we do the same. NONE of this is new. By the way, Obama knew this during his term and did absolutely ZERO to try to stop it. Why?
Please don’t be exhausting.

So that’s where you draw the line? You need evidence of a vote that was changed? Everything else is fair game?

So you don’t care if a foreign government or the US starts a federal investigation based on pure lies?

Okay, I’m done with this thread. I see it’s pointless. When you believe the federal government is free to start federal investigations on political opponents based on pure lies, or when you believe it’s okay for the government to receive stolen property from foreign governments to attack your political opponents, there’s nothing really to debate. You simply believe in a different reality of what it means to live in a free and democratic country based on the rule of law.
 

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Please don’t be exhausting.

So that’s where you draw the line? You need evidence of a vote that was changed? Everything else is fair game?

So you don’t care if a foreign government or the US starts a federal investigation based on pure lies?

Okay, I’m done with this thread. I see it’s pointless. When you believe the federal government is free to start federal investigations on political opponents based on pure lies, or when you believe it’s okay for the government to receive stolen property from foreign governments to attack your political opponents, there’s nothing really to debate. You simply believe in a different reality of what it means to live in a free and democratic country based on the rule of law.
Yes, evidence. You know, that what proves a matter asserted. In our country that is a cornerstone of our justice system.

Rule of law? Lol. I don't remember you complaining when Obama weaponized the Dept of Justice and the IRS to go after people who were not dems. Weird.

Take care man.
 

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From today's NY Times:

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The People vs. Donald J. Trump

He is demonstrably unfit for office. What are we waiting for?
David Leonhardt

By David Leonhardt

Opinion Columnist

Jan. 5, 2019

The presidential oath of office contains 35 words and one core promise: to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” Since virtually the moment Donald J. Trump took that oath two years ago, he has been violating it.

He has repeatedly put his own interests above those of the country. He has used the presidency to promote his businesses. He has accepted financial gifts from foreign countries. He has lied to the American people about his relationship with a hostile foreign government. He has tolerated cabinet officials who use their position to enrich themselves.

To shield himself from accountability for all of this — and for his unscrupulous presidential campaign — he has set out to undermine the American system of checks and balances. He has called for the prosecution of his political enemies and the protection of his allies. He has attempted to obstruct justice. He has tried to shake the public’s confidence in one democratic institution after another, including the press, federal law enforcement and the federal judiciary.

The unrelenting chaos that Trump creates can sometimes obscure the big picture. But the big picture is simple: The United States has never had a president as demonstrably unfit for the office as Trump. And it’s becoming clear that 2019 is likely to be dominated by a single question: What are we going to do about it?

The easy answer is to wait — to allow the various investigations of Trump to run their course and ask voters to deliver a verdict in 2020. That answer has one great advantage. It would avoid the national trauma of overturning an election result. Ultimately, however, waiting is too dangerous. The cost of removing a president from office is smaller than the cost of allowing this president to remain.

He has already shown, repeatedly, that he will hurt the country in order to help himself. He will damage American interests around the world and damage vital parts of our constitutional system at home. The risks that he will cause much more harm are growing.

Some of the biggest moderating influences have recently left the administration. The defense secretary who defended our alliances with NATO and South Korea is gone. So is the attorney general who refused to let Trump subvert a federal investigation into himself. The administration is increasingly filled with lackeys and enablers. Trump has become freer to turn his whims into policy — like, say, shutting down the government on the advice of Fox News hosts or pulling troops from Syria on the advice of a Turkish autocrat.

The biggest risk may be that an external emergency — a war, a terrorist attack, a financial crisis, an immense natural disaster — will arise. By then, it will be too late to pretend that he is anything other than manifestly unfit to lead.

For the country’s sake, there is only one acceptable outcome, just as there was after Americans realized in 1974 that a criminal was occupying the Oval Office. The president must go.

Achieving this outcome won’t be easy. It will require honorable people who have served in the Trump administration to share, publicly, what they have seen and what they believe. (At this point, anonymous leaks are not sufficient.) It will require congressional Republicans to acknowledge that they let a con man take over their party and then defended that con man. It will require Democrats and progressive activists to understand that a rushed impeachment may actually help Trump remain in office.

But if removing him will not be easy, it’s not as unlikely as it may sometimes seem. From the beginning, Trump has been an unusually weak president, as political scientists have pointed out. Although members of Congress have not done nearly enough to constrain him, no other recent president has faced nearly so much public criticism or private disdain from his own party.

Since the midterm election showed the political costs that Trump inflicts on Republicans, this criticism seems to be growing. They have broken with him on foreign policy (in Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Syria) and are anxious about the government shutdown. Trump is vulnerable to any erosion in his already weak approval rating, be it from an economic downturn, more Russia revelations or simply the defection of a few key allies. When support for an unpopular leader starts to crack, it can crumble.

Before we get to the how of Trump’s removal, though, I want to spend a little more time on the why — because even talking about the ouster of an elected president should happen only under extreme circumstances. Unfortunately, the country is now so polarized that such talk instead occurs with every president. Both George W. Bush and Barack Obama were subjected to reckless calls for their impeachment, from members of Congress no less.

So let’s be clear. Trump’s ideology is not an impeachable offense. However much you may disagree with Trump’s tax policy — and I disagree vehemently — it is not a reason to remove him from office. Nor are his efforts to cut government health insurance or to deport undocumented immigrants. Such issues, among others, are legitimate matters of democratic struggle, to be decided by elections, legislative debates, protests and the other normal tools of democracy. These issues are not the “treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors” that the founders intended impeachment to address.

Yet the founders also did not intend for the removal of a president to be impossible. They insisted on including an impeachment clause in the Constitution because they understood that an incompetent or corrupt person was nonetheless likely to attain high office every so often. And they understood how much harm such a person could do. The country needed a way to address what Alexander Hamilton called “the abuse or violation of some public trust” and James Madison called the “incapacity, negligence or perfidy” of a president.


The negligence and perfidy of President Trump — his high crimes and misdemeanors — can be separated into four categories. This list is conservative. It does not include the possibility that his campaign coordinated strategy with Russia, which remains uncertain. It also does not include his lazy approach to the job, like his refusal to read briefing books or the many empty hours on his schedule. It instead focuses on demonstrable ways that he has broken the law or violated his constitutional oath.
Trump has used the presidency for personal enrichment.

Regardless of party, Trump’s predecessors took elaborate steps to separate their personal financial interests from their governing responsibilities. They released their tax returns, so that any potential conflicts would be public. They placed their assets in a blind trust, to avoid knowing how their policies might affect their own investments.

Trump has instead treated the presidency as a branding opportunity. He has continued to own and promote the Trump Organization. He has spent more than 200 days at one of his properties and billed taxpayers for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

If this pattern were merely petty corruption, without damage to the national interest, it might not warrant removal from office. But Trump’s focus on personal profit certainly appears to be affecting policy. Most worrisome, foreign officials and others have realized they can curry favor with the president by spending money at one of his properties.

Saudi Arabia has showered the Trump Organization with business, and Trump has stood by the Saudis despite their brutal war in Yemen and their assassination of a prominent critic. A Chinese government-owned company reportedly gave a $500 million loan to a Trump-backed project in Indonesia; two days later, Trump announced that he was lifting sanctions on another well-connected Chinese company.

These examples, and many more, flout Article 1 of the Constitution, which bans federal officeholders from accepting “emoluments” from any foreign country unless Congress approves the arrangement. Madison, when making the case for an impeachment clause, spoke of a president who “might betray his trust to foreign powers.”

Then, of course, there is Russia. Even before Robert Mueller, the special counsel, completes his investigation, the known facts are damning enough in at least one way. Trump lied to the American people during the 2016 campaign about business negotiations between his company and Vladimir Putin’s government. As president, Trump has taken steps — in Europe and Syria — that benefit Putin. To put it succinctly: The president of the United States lied to the country about his commercial relationship with a hostile foreign government toward which he has a strangely accommodating policy.

Combine Trump’s actions with his tolerance for unethical cabinet officials — including ones who have made shady stock trades, accepted lavish perks or used government to promote their own companies or those of their friends — and the Trump administration is almost certainly the most corrupt in American history. It makes Warren G. Harding’s Teapot Dome scandal look like, well, a tempest in a teapot.
Trump has violated campaign finance law.

A Watergate grand jury famously described Richard Nixon as “an unindicted co-conspirator.” Trump now has his own indictment tag: “Individual-1.”

Federal prosecutors in New York filed papers last month alleging that Trump — identified as Individual-1 — directed a criminal plan to evade campaign finance laws. It happened during the final weeks of the 2016 campaign, when he instructed his lawyer, Michael Cohen, to pay a combined $280,000 in hush money to two women with whom Trump evidently had affairs. Trump and his campaign did not disclose these payments, as required by law. In the two years since, Trump has lied publicly about them — initially saying he did not know about the payments, only to change his story later.

It’s worth acknowledging that most campaign finance violations do not warrant removal from office. But these payments were not most campaign finance violations. They involved large, secret payoffs in the final weeks of a presidential campaign that, prosecutors said, “deceived the voting public.” The seriousness of the deception is presumably the reason that the prosecutors filed criminal charges against Cohen, rather than the more common penalty of civil fines for campaign finance violations.

What should happen to a president who won office with help from criminal behavior? The founders specifically considered this possibility during their debates at the Constitutional Convention. The most direct answer came from George Mason: A president who “practiced corruption and by that means procured his appointment in the first instance” should be subject to impeachment.
Trump has obstructed justice.

Whatever Mueller ultimately reveals about the relationship between the Trump campaign and Russia, Trump has obstructed justice to keep Mueller — and others — from getting to the truth.

Again and again, Trump has interfered with the investigation in ways that may violate the law and clearly do violate decades-old standards of presidential conduct. He pressured James Comey, then the F.B.I. director, to let up on the Russia investigation, as a political favor. When Comey refused, Trump fired him. Trump also repeatedly pressured Jeff Sessions, the attorney general, to halt the investigation and ultimately forced Sessions to resign for not doing so. Trump has also publicly hounded several of the government’s top experts on Russian organized crime, including Andrew McCabe and Bruce Ohr.

And Trump has repeatedly lied to the American people. He has claimed, outrageously, that the Justice Department tells witnesses to lie in exchange for leniency. He has rejected, with no factual basis, the findings of multiple intelligence agencies about Russia’s role in the 2016 campaign. He reportedly helped his son Donald Trump Jr. draft a false statement about a 2016 meeting with a Russian lawyer.

Obstruction of justice is certainly grounds for the removal of a president. It was the subject of the first Nixon article of impeachment passed by the House Judiciary Committee. Among other things, that article accused him of making “false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States.”
Trump has subverted democracy.

The Constitution that Trump swore to uphold revolves around checks and balances. It depends on the idea that the president is not a monarch. He is a citizen to whom, like all other citizens, the country’s laws apply. Trump rejects this principle. He has instead tried to undermine the credibility of any independent source of power or information that does not serve his interests.

It’s much more than just the Russia investigation. He has tried to delegitimize federal judges based on their ethnicity or on the president who appointed them, drawing a rare rebuke from Chief Justice John Roberts. Trump has criticized the Justice Department for indicting Republican politicians during an election year. He has called for Comey, Hillary Clinton and other political opponents of his to be jailed.

Trump has described journalists as “the enemy of the people” — an insult usually leveled by autocrats. He has rejected basic factual findings from the C.I.A., the Congressional Budget Office, research scientists and others. He has told bald lies about election fraud.

Individually, these sins may not seem to deserve removal from office. Collectively, though, they exact a terrible toll on American society. They cause people to lose the faith on which a democracy depends — faith in elections, in the justice system, in the basic notion of truth.

No other president since Nixon has engaged in behavior remotely like Trump’s. To accept it without sanction is ultimately to endorse it. Unpleasant though it is to remove a president, the costs and the risks of a continued Trump presidency are worse.

What now?

The most relevant precedent for the removal of Trump is Nixon, the only American president to be forced from office because of his conduct. And two aspects of Nixon’s departure tend to get overlooked today. One, he was never impeached. Two, most Republicans — both voters and elites — stuck by him until almost the very end. His approval rating among Republicans was still about 50 percent when, realizing in the summer of 1974 that he was doomed, he resigned.

The current political dynamics have some similarities. Whether the House of Representatives, under Democratic control, impeaches Trump is not the big question. The question is whether he loses the support of a meaningful slice of Republicans.

I know that many of Trump’s critics have given up hoping that he ever will. They assume that Republican senators will go on occasionally criticizing him without confronting him. But it is a mistake to give up. The stakes are too large — and the chances of success are too real.

Consider the following descriptions of Trump: “terribly unfit;” “erratic;” “reckless;” “impetuous;” “unstable;” “a pathological liar;” “dangerous to a democracy;” a concern to “anyone who cares about our nation.” Every one of these descriptions comes from a Republican member of Congress or of Trump’s own administration.

They know. They know he is unfit for office. They do not need to be persuaded of the truth. They need to be persuaded to act on it.

Democrats won’t persuade them by impeaching Trump. Doing so would probably rally the president’s supporters. It would shift the focus from Trump’s behavior toward a group of Democratic leaders whom Republicans are never going to like. A smarter approach is a series of sober-minded hearings to highlight Trump’s misconduct. Democrats should focus on easily understandable issues most likely to bother Trump’s supporters, like corruption.

If this approach works at all — or if Mueller’s findings shift opinion, or if a separate problem arises, like the economy — Trump’s Republican allies will find themselves in a very difficult spot. At his current approval rating of about 40 percent, Republicans were thumped in the midterms. Were his rating to fall further, a significant number of congressional Republicans would be facing long re-election odds in 2020.


Two examples are Cory Gardner of Colorado and Susan Collins of Maine, senators who, not coincidentally, have shown tentative signs of breaking with Trump on the government shutdown. The recent criticism from Mitt Romney — who alternates between critical and sycophantic, depending on his own political interests — is another sign of Trump’s weakness.

For now, most Republicans worry that a full break with Trump will cause them to lose a primary, and it might. But sticking by him is no free lunch. Just ask the 27 Republican incumbents who were defeated last year and are now former members of Congress. By wide margins, suburban voters and younger voters find Trump abhorrent. The Republican Party needs to hold its own among these voters, starting in 2020.

It’s not only that Trump is unfit to be president and that Republicans know it. It also may be the case that they will soon have a political self-interest in abandoning him. If they did, the end could come swiftly. The House could then impeach Trump, knowing the Senate might act to convict. Or negotiations could begin over whether Trump deserves to trade resignation for some version of immunity.

Finally, there is the hope — naïve though it may seem — that some Republicans will choose to act on principle. There now exists a small club of former Trump administration officials who were widely respected before joining the administration and whom Trump has sullied, to greater or lesser degrees. It includes Rex Tillerson, Gary Cohn, H.R. McMaster and Jim Mattis. Imagine if one of them gave a television interview and told the truth about Trump. Doing so would be a service to their country at a time of national need. It would be an illustration of duty.

Throughout his career, Trump has worked hard to invent his own reality, and largely succeeded. It has made him very rich and, against all odds, elected him president. But whatever happens in 2019, his false version of reality will not survive history, just as Nixon’s did not. Which side of that history do today’s Republicans want to be on?
I'm Speechless dude
 

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Yes, evidence. You know, that what proves a matter asserted. In our country that is a cornerstone of our justice system.

Rule of law? Lol. I don't remember you complaining when Obama weaponized the Dept of Justice and the IRS to go after people who were not dems. Weird.

Take care man.
You too man. You take care as well.
 

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I'm Speechless dude
There are/were a lot of really good people out there, Republicans even, that stuck their necks out to do what was right by this country. Unfortunately their efforts were undone by other weak men and women that chose to support Trump. Guess we will have to wait till November to see who prevails. Democracy or fear and loathing.
 

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There are/were a lot of really good people out there, Republicans even, that stuck their necks out to do what was right by this country. Unfortunately their efforts were undone by other weak men and women that chose to support Trump. Guess we will have to wait till November to see who prevails. Democracy or fear and loathing.
Have faith. There ARE a lot of good people out there, on BOTH sides. Hell, I would argue that you and I could agree on more than we would disagree on. I've said it before, and I will say it again: I think Trump is a DOUCHEBAG on a personal level, and he lies when his lips move. I WISH we had a better option to vote for President.

Unfortunately, YOUR side is not presenting that person, just like they did not last time. America is NOT ready to go socialist, I have worked my ass off to get to where I am, and I will never, everr support a Commie like Bernie who promises people "free" shit, and debt relief from loans THEY wanted. That is shitty, and you know it. et

We are at a time in our country where these shitty options are all we have. It does not look to get better anytime soon. If the dems would present even a moderately decent candidate, he/she could count on my support. THey ALL lost me when they raised their hands in the first debate saying they would support free health care for illegals. NO SALE.
 

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Arguing that Obama did nothing is stupid.

"On October 7, the U.S. government formally accused Russia of hacking the DNC's computer networks to interfere in the 2016 presidential election with the help of organizations like WikiLeaks. The Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security claimed in their joint statement, "The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. "


You know what else happened that day?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuMsBp7XYAAFS9y.jpg

"On October 7, 2016, during the 2016 United States presidential election, The Washington Post published a video and accompanying article about then-presidential candidate Donald Trump and television host Billy Bush having "an extremely lewd conversation about women" in 2005. Trump and Bush were in a bus on their way to film an episode of Access Hollywood, a show owned by NBCUniversal. In the video, Trump described his attempt to seduce a married woman and indicated he might start kissing a woman that he and Bush were about to meet. He added, "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

The important news got buried by another outrage by our Appresident.
 

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Have faith. There ARE a lot of good people out there, on BOTH sides. Hell, I would argue that you and I could agree on more than we would disagree on. I've said it before, and I will say it again: I think Trump is a DOUCHEBAG on a personal level, and he lies when his lips move. I WISH we had a better option to vote for President.

Unfortunately, YOUR side is not presenting that person, just like they did not last time. America is NOT ready to go socialist, I have worked my ass off to get to where I am, and I will never, everr support a Commie like Bernie who promises people "free" shit, and debt relief from loans THEY wanted. That is shitty, and you know it. et

We are at a time in our country where these shitty options are all we have. It does not look to get better anytime soon. If the dems would present even a moderately decent candidate, he/she could count on my support. THey ALL lost me when they raised their hands in the first debate saying they would support free health care for illegals. NO SALE.
I would not have raised my hand. The moderator would turn to me and ask why I was the only one and my answer would have been:

There would be no illegals because my immigration policy would eliminate any reason for people to enter the US illegally.

People come come to this country to work. I’d levy a $10,000 per head to companies that hire illegals and I’d hire agents to enforce this law. After while. Business’s get the idea not to hire people without proper paperwork. Once foreigners figure out there’s no work here unless you enter legally, THEY STOP COMING HERE ILLEGALLY. You work, you pay taxes, you can get healthcare if you need it, because you’ve paid into the system.

Oh, and you have an option, his name is Mike Pence.
 

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Arguing that Obama did nothing is stupid.

"On October 7, the U.S. government formally accused Russia of hacking the DNC's computer networks to interfere in the 2016 presidential election with the help of organizations like WikiLeaks. The Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security claimed in their joint statement, "The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. "


You know what else happened that day?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuMsBp7XYAAFS9y.jpg

"On October 7, 2016, during the 2016 United States presidential election, The Washington Post published a video and accompanying article about then-presidential candidate Donald Trump and television host Billy Bush having "an extremely lewd conversation about women" in 2005. Trump and Bush were in a bus on their way to film an episode of Access Hollywood, a show owned by NBCUniversal. In the video, Trump described his attempt to seduce a married woman and indicated he might start kissing a woman that he and Bush were about to meet. He added, "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

The important news got buried by another outrage by our Appresident.

Obama thought no way Trump would win so pushing the Russia story forward was pointless and potentially damaging to our democracy. He also briefed McConnell and the gang of 8 and McConnell objected to publicizing the story and vowed to say Obama was playing party politics to win the election. McConnell put a lot on the line (2 years of federal judges as a supreme) and he was not going to let it slip by being a fucking patriot to the constitution. He’s a bastard.
 

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Arguing that Obama did nothing is stupid.

"On October 7, the U.S. government formally accused Russia of hacking the DNC's computer networks to interfere in the 2016 presidential election with the help of organizations like WikiLeaks. The Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security claimed in their joint statement, "The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. "


You know what else happened that day?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuMsBp7XYAAFS9y.jpg

"On October 7, 2016, during the 2016 United States presidential election, The Washington Post published a video and accompanying article about then-presidential candidate Donald Trump and television host Billy Bush having "an extremely lewd conversation about women" in 2005. Trump and Bush were in a bus on their way to film an episode of Access Hollywood, a show owned by NBCUniversal. In the video, Trump described his attempt to seduce a married woman and indicated he might start kissing a woman that he and Bush were about to meet. He added, "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

The important news got buried by another outrage by our Appresident.

Obama did NOTHING about alleged Russian interference. NOTHING. You know and so do the rest of us. To try to agrue otherwise once again exposes you for the dem hack that you are.

Obama tipped his hand duriing the Pres debates with Mittens when he mocked Mitt for saying Russia was out biggest Geo-political threat. Do you remember what Obama told Mitt? Mitt, the 1980's just called and want their foreign policy back.

Yeah. Another swing and miss, BD.
 
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