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all i have to say about the 250r is getting ready to sell it within a year, especially riding with these guys. Im not saying that pack ridiculously fast its just that 250r is just a starter bike. Dont expect to ride cross country on it, it doesn't like to ride above eighty. Doing the jump up to the slower 600 group would give you a bike that can handle long distances and also has decent power. Drur made it to and from north Carolina without problems, and krid also travel to multiple states with his fz6.
 

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Dirk, I was hoping you would clarify your position and you did so quite nicely. You are certainly the exception and not the norm and I believe you would agree with me. :cheers

The local BMW dealership in Cape would have you believe that there is no other motorcycle worth owning besides a BMW. I truly believe the owner/staff would have the same position if they were selling Ducati, Aprilia, or any other European boutique brand.

There are very few bikes that work well for a beginner and the Ninja 250 certainly ranks near the top of that short list. Reliable, cheap to operate, fairly quick and gets killer fuel mileage.

Check Craigslist as you can usually find a ton of them for sale.
I probably am the exception and not the norm, but then again, I always have been. I used to own a heavily modified (engine swapped, trans swapped, custom suspension) SATURN sedan. NOT NORMAL! LOL

As for Euro bikes, I would love to own a MV Augusta Brutale and an Aprilia Futura (no longer made) but I can't afford them. Likely I will own an FJR next because of their ridiculous reliabilty and range (both comfort and fuel capacity).




all i have to say about the 250r is getting ready to sell it within a year, especially riding with these guys. Im not saying that pack ridiculously fast its just that 250r is just a starter bike. Dont expect to ride cross country on it, it doesn't like to ride above eighty. Doing the jump up to the slower 600 group would give you a bike that can handle long distances and also has decent power. Drur made it to and from north Carolina without problems, and krid also travel to multiple states with his fz6.
Very true. Since you already had a Chinabike200 Supersport :lao you will likely be out riding the 250R fairly quickly especially if you ride behind Danny (Iroc). You will learn a whole lot real quick. It really depends on how much you plan on riding and if you wanna bother selling another bike.

So long as you respect a 600/650 non SS class bike, you should be just fine. The FZ6 is a kitten below 8,000 rpm where it starts transforming into a screamer.


Buddy, you don't need to apologize, If people thought I was that shallow, I am glad to be able to change their mind.

How things looking for a western trip, guys?
 

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all i have to say about the 250r is getting ready to sell it within a year, especially riding with these guys. Im not saying that pack ridiculously fast its just that 250r is just a starter bike. Dont expect to ride cross country on it, it doesn't like to ride above eighty. Doing the jump up to the slower 600 group would give you a bike that can handle long distances and also has decent power. Drur made it to and from north Carolina without problems, and krid also travel to multiple states with his fz6.
And TJ, none of those things are required when learning to ride a bike. Tiger is a teenager and needs experience, not a cross country tour.

Besides, there are folks who have done Iron Butt runs on a 250 so don't discredit the bike so easily.
 

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Well, I am pretty happy with our tax return and my bike will soon be back on the road. It needed a lot of small things, but in my current situation, it was just out of reach. New rear tire, chain and sprockets and some other stuff.

Anyway, it's in pieces at the moment but I'm excited. Dirk, it's in Nathan's garage now. It looks good naked.
 

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id say go look for a ex500 or ninja 500r (same bike different fairings) and ride it one year....great starter bike and also very forgiving for makin stupid mistakes. enough power to run a lil but not enough to really hurt ya either.

dont jump on a 600 anything if ur inexperienced and dont let ur friends tell ya differently a 600cc bike is nothin to joke about as far as power goes...who knows when ull get a stupid idea to pop wheelies from a dead stop or try and do rolling endos. the 500 is a good tease bike like a woman lettin u touch 4th base then slappin ya away ...the 500 will let u taste the power but will slap u away if u want to much to fast.

glad to see the motorcycle forum is back on bikes and away from guns....

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id say go look for a ex500 or ninja 500r (same bike different fairings) and ride it one year....great starter bike and also very forgiving for makin stupid mistakes. enough power to run a lil but not enough to really hurt ya either.

dont jump on a 600 anything if ur inexperienced and dont let ur friends tell ya differently a 600cc bike is nothin to joke about as far as power goes...who knows when ull get a stupid idea to pop wheelies from a dead stop or try and do rolling endos. the 500 is a good tease bike like a woman lettin u touch 4th base then slappin ya away ...the 500 will let u taste the power but will slap u away if u want to much to fast.

glad to see the motorcycle forum is back on bikes and away from guns....

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:cheers

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I concur with both the motorcycle advice and the gun statement! Excellent advice. :cheers
 

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+1 on the 500 ninja (that's what i started on and did good with it)

it's twice the power of the 250 ninja and a little b*****. if you want a 600 go for the new yamaha FZ6R. it's yamaha's entry level bike now. i think it's sitting at 60hp which would not be to much if you take the MSF class. if your not going to take the MSF class then get the 250 ninja.
 

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+1 on the 500 ninja (that's what i started on and did good with it)

it's twice the power of the 250 ninja and a little b*****. if you want a 600 go for the new yamaha FZ6R. it's yamaha's entry level bike now. i think it's sitting at 60hp which would not be to much if you take the MSF class. if your not going to take the MSF class then get the 250 ninja.
good point. we have a used 2009 FZ6R on the lot right now. Guy bought it to start on and traded it for an R6.

Not sure what the price is. But gonna be less than new.
 

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so ud prefer puttin him on a 600 with 60 hp over a 500 with 50-54 when i believe a 250 has roughly (this means i think the hp is close to i might be off as much as 10-20 off in this estimate) 35 hp? ill admit i had no clue they made 600s with such little hp... i guess when u get a 600rr as a 600 to compare its not the same lol
 

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i have been reading about the new fz6r and the only have 64 hp. the reason this bike is better than the 500 is that it's a fuel injected bike and b***** as well so it would be a good bike to ride on longer rides. also you wouldn't get tired of it so fast. i got tired of the ex500 in one summer. nothing wrong with the ex500 at all i just wanted more power.
 

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I'm assuming the numbers I heard were at the crank then. Sorry for the confusion.
Yup... 78hp at the crank. They made that bike to compete directly with the Ninja 650R, the GSX650F, and the SV650. All of those bikes are in the 70's at the crank.

The FZ6 (non-R) is 98hp at the crank. Mine was 89hp at the tire stock, 96hp after mods.
 

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Well, the 650R averages right around 64hp on dynos, so they are really close than I thought then.

Do you know if Surdyke is going to have the dyno back anytime soon? I'm changing a lot and I'm just kinda curious where mine's going to be.
 

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Well, the 650R averages right around 64hp on dynos, so they are really close than I thought then.

Do you know if Surdyke is going to have the dyno back anytime soon? I'm changing a lot and I'm just kinda curious where mine's going to be.
no idea right now. It is rumored that the Harley douchebags are gonna get rid of the trailer and permanently mount it in their "pig pen" (my term not theirs). If so, I'm sure they would try to regulate how we use it and be real jerks about it. Oh.... don't feel bad about 64 horsepower. The brand spanking new Harley Davidson Dyna Wide Glide with the 96 cubic inch engine and six speed transmission makes a whopping.... wait for it..... 64hp!
 

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Not to mention it weighs 800lbs+. Anyway, I'm getting different exhaust, air filter, and some air box mods, so I figure thats good for a couple...might be at 66 or so. Haha. I wish there was some way hack the fuel system for mine like you did on yours. I really don't want to have to get a power commander, but that may be something to get soon.

I was going to just save the money for a different bike, but I started getting insurance quotes and I'm sticking with the Ninja for awhile. I can't justify spending $2000 a year on insurance when I have a perfect record. That's just stupid.
 

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Not to mention it weighs 800lbs+. Anyway, I'm getting different exhaust, air filter, and some air box mods, so I figure thats good for a couple...might be at 66 or so. Haha.
ooh ooh ooh what you getting?
 
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