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I bought my scorpion exo 400 used 2 years ago cause it didn't have much use/no scratches. But I have unfortunately neglected it... No bag, has quite a few scratches on the helmet, never been in an accident or major damage but it's been bumped against things from carrying it, rolling around in the trunk of my car a few times, stuff like that : /

I have it listed for fifty bucks (not selling anyway) so should I just throw it out and buy a new helmet today? And of course I am going to be more responsible with my new one.
 

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Just bought the R410 xs
Reading the manual I never realized how tight it had to be, now im really worried. It's hard to get the helmet on, but it told me to shake my head from left to right, and the helmet moved loosely... I can not pull it off any way, but pulling it forward I can put my fingers between my forehead and liner. It's already an extra small so what do I do now : ( have to take it back and try on a freaking kids helmet?
 

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Step away from the scorpion brand for a little bit and try on an Arai, Shoei, Suomy, AGV or other top brand and see which fits you best. Your head shape may not be ideal for the Scorpion shell type.
 

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I tried on a new Shoei and AGV today and the xs was even looser than this one. Plus I simply can't afford those anyway : ( I just had $200 to spend and don't get money often.
 

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Ive stuck with scorpion cause in this price range it had the thickest padding to make up for how small I am. XS in HJC felt huge for example.
 

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I'm poor because I'm already dying from an illness, so just forget about the helmet question, if I die from riding it's better than dealing with it. Thanks anyway for the help.
 

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I think the make additional padding that you can add on too, if I'm not mistaken. Sorry to hear about your terminal illness. Hope you enjoy every day you have to the fullest!
 

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Cheap doesn't necessarily mean it lacks the same protection as a $500 helmet, you just don't get the same features like quick release visors or multiple airflow channels, etc. If it's DOT rated then it's passed the same tests as any other helmet.

Try going to a site like Revzilla where they have a huge selection of helmets. You can tell the staff what fit best and they can make recommendations. If it doesn't fit you can return it, and shipping is free, including on the exchange (return shipping is not). Just an option rather than your local motorcycle store.

I'd throw the helmet away.

Also, there are people on this forum that have an illness where they are either close or past the life expectancy they were given. I know at least one of them wears good gear, and I'm sure that's true for most. I don't know what your illness is but maybe you'll end up living for a long time, and why waste that chance by not protecting yourself on a motorcycle?
 

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Cheap doesn't necessarily mean it lacks the same protection as a $500 helmet, you just don't get the same features like quick release visors or multiple airflow channels, etc. If it's DOT rated then it's passed the same tests as any other helmet.

Try going to a site like Revzilla where they have a huge selection of helmets. You can tell the staff what fit best and they can make recommendations. If it doesn't fit you can return it, and shipping is free, including on the exchange (return shipping is not). Just an option rather than your local motorcycle store.

I'd throw the helmet away.

Also, there are people on this forum that have an illness where they are either close or past the life expectancy they were given. I know at least one of them wears good gear, and I'm sure that's true for most. I don't know what your illness is but maybe you'll end up living for a long time, and why waste that chance by not protecting yourself on a motorcycle?
There's a difference between meeting minimum standards for a test, and exceeding those standards. After owning a Scorpion, a Shoei and an AGV I can tell you first hand that there's a big difference in quality.
 

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If it is hard to get on you should be ok. If you think it needs to be tighter ? Try wearing a dew rag ? over your hair that will make it tighter..
 

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There's a difference between meeting minimum standards for a test, and exceeding those standards. After owning a Scorpion, a Shoei and an AGV I can tell you first hand that there's a big difference in quality.
Good point. Sorry to hear that you personally tested all the crash standards though. :(
 

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You don't need to crash two helmets to be able to tell that there's a difference in quality between them.. You know this just as well as I do, so cut the shit. ;)
Yeah, I know that, and it was the point I made right before the part of my post you highlighted. My other point was that a $100 helmet goes through the same tests as a $500 helmet. If they both pass, it means they both passed using the same requirements. My use of the word "necessarily" after "doesn't" was to imply that it doesn't mean that they both offer the same exact protection, but they both at least meet the minimum required by the DOT tests.

I'm up too late...
 

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There's a difference between meeting minimum standards for a test, and exceeding those standards. After owning a Scorpion, a Shoei and an AGV I can tell you first hand that there's a big difference in quality.
Fit and finish can be different, features, weight, etc.

"Exceeding" those standards? How?

The only organization that has tried to actually put that into perspective is SHARP, and the difference between $100 and $500 helmets is minimum, with $100 helmets rating as good as $600 Arais.

SHARP Helmets - THE HELMET SAFETY SCHEME

For example, this Arai RX-7 Corsair V that sells for $ 836:

Arai RX-7 Corsair V Helmet - Nicky GP LTD - Arai - Helmets - sportbike - Superbike Toy Store - 1.866.999.9823

Gets 4 stars on SHARP tests:

SHARP Helmets - Arai RX-7 GP


According to your logic (actually, how good you have fell for marketing) this $170 AGV K3 should fare terribly...

AGV K3 Helmet - Solids - AGV Helmets - Helmets - sportbike - Superbike Toy Store - 1.866.999.9823

But it gets the same 4 stars as the Arai...

SHARP Helmets - AGV K-3
 

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I never said price is an accurate measurement of quality; stop putting words in my mouth. What I said was that yes, helmets that have the same test stamps (DOT, SNELL, etc) pass the same tests, but that doesn't mean the cheapest one is as good as the most expensive one. Is the $800 helmet 8x better than the $100 helmet? No, probably not. But you can't argue that they're going to be better. After seeing ICON and HCJ helmet shells splitting in half after relatively tame crashes, and after having owned (and crashed) several helmets on all areas of the "cost spectrum", I can offer personal experience to back my claims.

You're welcome to think what you'd like and buy whatever you'd like, but my initial comment to the OP was meant to have her at least branch out and TRY some other brands of helmets, especially since she mentioned that the one she had didn't fit her too well. She seemed to have the horse-blinders on Scorpion brand, and that was that.
 
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