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I’ve searched here and Kawaiforums until my eyes have bled and keep coming up with conflicting opinions. Does anyone know for a fact if a ZX-10 or ZX-636 rear shock will bolt up to a ZZR600?

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They will both fit but the zx-10 shock will need to be shimmed at the point where the top of the shock bolts to the sub-frame. The 636 shock will also fit with a slight shim too, if you get eitgher one you can make either work.

Be aware that when you upgrade the rear shock that it will bring out the deficiency and softness of the stock front forks so it might leave you wanting to revalve and spring your front shocks.

Maybe try a professional setup on the stock setup before embarking on this mission. Let us know how it works out!
 

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They will both fit but the zx-10 shock will need to be shimmed at the point where the top of the shock bolts to the sub-frame. The 636 shock will also fit with a slight shim too, if you get eitgher one you can make either work.

Be aware that when you upgrade the rear shock that it will bring out the deficiency and softness of the stock front forks so it might leave you wanting to revalve and spring your front shocks.

Maybe try a professional setup on the stock setup before embarking on this mission. Let us know how it works out!
Thanks much.

I’m trying to start with the weakest point first. Obviously, there just isn’t enough rebound dampening from the rear stocker for even my meager mass (150 lbs with boots, helmet, and a pocketful of change). A well thought of CA shop has offered to re-build my stock rear and the front forks for what looks like a damned fair price. But there’s also a local guy selling a very low mileage Penske rear for a ZX-10 real damned cheap. I’m thinking that if I get the Penske to begin with and fix the most glaring deficiency, then if the front end still isn’t to my satisfaction I still have the option of sending the forks out for some professional attention.

Damn, this modding a bike is a slippery slope. When I got my V-Rod there were just a couple of little things I wanted to change. $21,000 later I’ve got it pretty much the way I want it. Is there a support group for this problem? And I don’t mean the enablers from this place.

Thanks again.

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There's a saying that my suspension specialist uses.... "If you can't afford to do it RIGHT, how are you gonna afford to do it OVER?"..... ie, do it right the first time & don't 1/2 ass it.

If you're gonna spend the money on a rear shock, get a penske or an Ohlins thats designed for the bike you're putting it on and sprung for YOUR weight. A zx10 or 636 shock will provide only marginal improvment, if any at all. I'm sure the extra money spent on a Penske or Ohlins will be well worth it.
 

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OreoGaborio said:
There's a saying that my suspension specialist uses.... "If you can't afford to do it RIGHT, how are you gonna afford to do it OVER?"..... ie, do it right the first time & don't 1/2 ass it.

If you're gonna spend the money on a rear shock, get a penske or an Ohlins thats designed for the bike you're putting it on and sprung for YOUR weight. A zx10 or 636 shock will provide only marginal improvment, if any at all. I'm sure the extra money spent on a Penske or Ohlins will be well worth it.

Or an Elka...
 

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How about someone finding a place that will do a group buy on some Penske shocks, maybe some killer deal will come up.
 

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Just what sort of shims are needed?

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Just wanted to revive this thread a little. After just a few track days my rear shock is almost spent. I only have about a 1/4 turn left on compression and my susp guy says it might be time for a new one. I have tried to research and can't find any product listed for our bike or the old zx6 model. Anybody have a part number or model number for the ohlins and elka that fits correctly?

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The Ohlins site will tell ya what you need by plugging in the Bike Model.

Ohlins out back has been the best improvement to my ZX6R. Confidence level went wayyy up. Front forks were done as well with Traxxion Dynamics tuning the setup.

To save money.....removing the forks and the shock yourself will save you labor. Then either ship them to the rebuild shop or deliver them yourself.

If you do the whole suspension front and rear you will look at bling a whole different way.
 

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After just a few track days my rear shock is almost spent. I only have about a 1/4 turn left on compression and my susp guy says it might be time for a new one.
Huh???? Does your suspension guy not realize that they're rebuildable? You need to refresh the shock oil about once every couple of seasons depending how often/hard you ride to keep it fresh. The oil that's in there is dirty and has lost its viscosity, that's why you're almost maxing out the damping settings.

Contact Mike Martire (or Peter Kates, either one) and tell him I sent you (no, seriously, tell them I sent you). Contact Info. They can help you.

Just be fore-warned, good suspension doesn't come cheap.

The Ohlins site will tell ya what you need by plugging in the Bike Model.

Ohlins out back has been the best improvement to my ZX6R. Confidence level went wayyy up. Front forks were done as well with Traxxion Dynamics tuning the setup.

To save money.....removing the forks and the shock yourself will save you labor. Then either ship them to the rebuild shop or deliver them yourself.

If you do the whole suspension front and rear you will look at bling a whole different way.
Word.... What Moto said..

But I checked out the Ohlins website & he's right, there's no shock info listed for your model anymore.
 

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I agree with Oreo, Do it right. I weigh 170 to 180 depending on my time of the month. I dont have any problems with the rear shock yet. My stock tires are junk though. If your bouncing in the rear you could try a rebuid with thicker oil or differant size orfice's in the piston. Or a heavier spring. Change the back and youll have to change the front!
 

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A Penske off a ZX-10 will fit just fine with a very minor shim job.

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The Ohlins site will tell ya what you need by plugging in the Bike Model.

Ohlins out back has been the best improvement to my ZX6R. Confidence level went wayyy up. Front forks were done as well with Traxxion Dynamics tuning the setup.

To save money.....removing the forks and the shock yourself will save you labor. Then either ship them to the rebuild shop or deliver them yourself.

If you do the whole suspension front and rear you will look at bling a whole different way.
Ohlins doesn't list a ZZR600 for '03-'08
 
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