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Dutch per-KM-road tax, GPS based. No, this is not a joke.
How much you want to bet california tries it first in the states?
How much you want to bet california tries it first in the states?
Ready for this to be tried in the US?
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If this were to happen in my home state, I would buy a horse.
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We already do have this, it's called tax on gasoline!
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Except the gas tax doesn't involve installing a GPS in your car which of course the government will never use for purposes other than distance traveled. :twofinger
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Haha just read the article, pretty retarded. Theres no way in hell that's gonna happen in the US and if it does I suggest a violent overthrow of the government.*
* Disclaimer: This post was purely sarcastic. Long live Barack Obama and all shall bow down on their knees and submit to his will.
* Disclaimer: This post was purely sarcastic. Long live Barack Obama and all shall bow down on their knees and submit to his will.
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My stupid fucking country will probably be the guinea pig... even though everything is sooooooooo far apart.
Like, I consider driving to toronto and back to visit my bro on the weekend (around 650 mile round trip not including driving in the city) to be a "small" excursion. Montreal (200 mile round trip roughly) is a joke.
Like, I consider driving to toronto and back to visit my bro on the weekend (around 650 mile round trip not including driving in the city) to be a "small" excursion. Montreal (200 mile round trip roughly) is a joke.
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You would overthrow the government for this little thing? WTF? After all that's happen, now it's like "Shit, now they are taxing us per-mile. We must take over. Who cares that they took away our rights, destroyed the constituion, search private homes without warrents and everything else. But now, taxing us per-mile! MY GOD!"
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Fuuuuck that. I'd dust off my Marty McFly Hoverboard if that happened here.
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It said instead of the "personal property tax". I would take that anyday. Why the fuck should I have to pay to own soemthing and hardly ever use it. I have 3 cars and 2 bikes have to pay personal proerty on all 5 but I dont always use all 3. Do you see what im getting at. I feel there would be significant savings to me.
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That would be short-sighted. You would be selling your autonomy for a few bucks. (Assuming that it would save you money in the first place, since you can bet the new setup won't collect less money than the old one overall.) If you object to paying taxes simply for owning things (which is a perfectly reasonable objection), then fight against them doing that.
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Man, my home state has really taken a turn. Its always been tolerant (in a "you do your thing and leave me the fuck alone" way) but never ultra-liberal/big government.
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I'm sure this new law will only open up the market to new illegal software/hardware products that will help drivers block the GPS but this doesn't change the fact that the law is damn retarded.
Oh and also, does that mean that all bikes will come with a GPS in 2012?
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It surprised me as well. But then again, Oregon won't even let you pump your own gas.
I don't like this proposal at all on privacy grounds, but I'm on the fence about whether the basic idea is fairer than gas tax. Gas tax would ideally be good enough because heavier vehicles get poorer mileage and so pay more tax per mile. But as mileage improves for SUVs but not so much for cars, the gap gets closer. Then there's the sportbike that causes almost no damage at all, but gets similar mileage to a Corolla.
I'm thinking that gas tax is still a good enough approximation, especially once you add in the cost of the GPS units and their maintenance.
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This.
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A per mile tax would KILL tourism
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Perhaps briefly.
Overall, it would simply shift tourism to places which can be reached by plane or train.
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