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Gimpdiggity said:
As far as them not being able to do anything about it, anyone who believes that is about as ignorant as they can possibly be. If there is only a "handful" of them that are bad, as you say, and over 10 million people, then they would've stood a very good chance of winning a revolutionary war. You know what that is, right?? If your numbers are 10 million, to a handful, you've got a good shot. But they never even tried. You know why?? Because they were complacent and okay with what was going on. That alone makes them bad enough. It's a society's job to rid itself of it's government if said government is not fulfilling their wishes. So, if they didn't rid themselves of the rulers over there, then they must've believed in what their rulers were doing.

Also, you can't even begin to deny that most of the terrorism that is directed towards us is bred in this region of the world. They cause nothing but problems for the entire world. ALL of the countries over there shouldn't be trusted at all. They are all just little time bombs waiting to go off. If you just get rid of the problem area before another problem arises, then you have saved yourself and the rest of the world alot of time and effort.

I'll close this post by quoting the rules of the site for you, seeing as you decided to call me names and such in your post...

"1. We have no intention of preventing anyone from saying anything, however, please be advised that flames will not be tolerated. Please use smilies to accurately convey your tone. That'll help us determine whether you're serious or just joking."
First: You made the stupid comments, making you a shit head!
Second: You tell the 13 year old kid that was strung to a crross and had his teeth pulled out with a pair of pliers by the former Iraqi military that he could have done something to stop it. The thing you don't realize is that for the last thirty years those ppl were ruled by fear. One group tried to revolt. You know what happened to them? Saddam gassed their entire village. You try and fight after your whole family was wiped out because one person in town desided to say they didn't like the mayor. the Iraqi ppl were ruled by a person that said do what your told or you will suffer a long and painfull death. The families off the victems that were strung up to crosses in the street were not aloud to take their bodies down. They were left their as reminders to the iraqi ppl what happens when you speek out against Saddam. And my whole rebuttle was about your stupid comments about "Nuking the entire region" :asshole
 

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Before this thread gets closed down lemme just say that video kicks ass! Sent a chill down my spine and gave me goosebumps just watching it. Definatley got me pumped up. I'm proud to be an american, always have been and always will be.
 

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You know, I have not read any of the replies, but I will say this...

While I realize that video should (and it does) get my patriotic blood boiling, it also makes me VERY, very mad at how this whole operation, and every one since WW2 has been handled.

I am sick and tired of politicians running wars. We have the best armed forces, and people in them bar none in the world, and we are Constantly hamstringing them!! I am so tired of that. I feel it serves no purpose but to make us *less safe* because those who wish us harm are only emboldened when we don't see things All The Way Through.

Whether it be what happened in Mogidishu, or Fallujah... and on and on, I just can't tolerate what the politicians do, and how they will not let those who are trained, who know how best to not only win the wars, but how to do it with the least amount of casualities to our own troops, prosocute the fight the way it should be.

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Inky24 said:
Before this thread gets closed down lemme just say that video kicks ass! Sent a chill down my spine and gave me goosebumps just watching it. Definatley got me pumped up. I'm proud to be an american, always have been and always will be.

Same here. Like when Bush said that whoever did this is gonna here us, then the croud started chanting USA, USA. That gave be big chills.
 

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First: You made the stupid comments, making you a shit head!
Second: You tell the 13 year old kid that was strung to a crross and had his teeth pulled out with a pair of pliers by the former Iraqi military that he could have done something to stop it. The thing you don't realize is that for the last thirty years those ppl were ruled by fear. One group tried to revolt. You know what happened to them? Saddam gassed their entire village. You try and fight after your whole family was wiped out because one person in town desided to say they didn't like the mayor. the Iraqi ppl were ruled by a person that said do what your told or you will suffer a long and painfull death. The families off the victems that were strung up to crosses in the street were not aloud to take their bodies down. They were left their as reminders to the iraqi ppl what happens when you speek out against Saddam. And my whole rebuttle was about your stupid comments about "Nuking the entire region" :asshole
You just keep on thinking that I don't deserve to have an opinion of my own. That's fine. I still have it, you're not changing it at all by acting like a 10 year old and calling me names.

You just keep going on thinking that the Middle East isn't the center of the world's problems. You just continue to be ignorant. I'm sure the next time we have to send troops over there to stop some other idiot that's from that region of the world, you'll continue to think that there's nothing wrong with them, and that it's only 1 or 2 groups of people that are causing the problems there.

If you truly believe that the Middle East only has a small handful of people that are bad and that hate us, then I'm sorry, but I believe you are mistaken. But you know what?? I'm gonna be a grown up and not call you names for the opinion that you have...maybe you missed that part in school where they taught you that everyone will have differing opinions. But either way, I'm not gonna call you names for having an opinion.

Keep thinking that they aren't all bad, and then when you go back there to fight again in a few years, I hope I don't end up having to say I told you so. Stay safe man. Your opinion of them seems to me like it might get you into trouble if you ever have to go to war there again.
 

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Do you realize how much you sound like the terrorists? The World Trade Center was attacked due to the terrorists hatred of the US government. Their reasoning for killing the 3000 civilans was exactly what you said above. That we elected the politicians, and did nothing to stop their actions, so we must have supported them. So killing civilians was justified to them.

The Iraqi people had nothing to do with 9/11. Hating them is misdirected, and racist.

Patriotism is fine. Using patriotism to justify hate makes you as bad as them.

Also removing a government through social uprising is not as simple as you make it sound. The government controls the military. A few people with pea shooters is not going to successfully overtake a dicatorship.
Not 100% correct. The terrorist hatred for the U.S. is not entirely based on our civilians and our elected officials. It has to do with the fact that we are "infidels" in their "Holy Land." They view the entire "West" as infidels that must be killed. Even if we elected someone, and he pulled completely out of the region, the terrorists would still hate us. They would still want to kill every American they can. They would still plot against us.

By your ideas, a place that does NOT agree with us should be safe from these people. A place that goes against us should be safe from these terrorists. Yet France still worries about terrrorist attacks. All of the countries that didn't want us to go to war with Iraq still worry about terrorist attacks.

Face it, the Middle East hatred for us is based on a have and have not situation. We HAVE things. They don't. They want those things that we have, and since they can't have them, it makes them hate us.
 

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I made the warnings and it seems that no one belives me so guess what CLOSED

Thread left open for viewing purposes only:D

Thank you and have a good night:D
 

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After spending all most a year in Iraq I have come to see that not all of them are bad. For those to say kill them all, you're stupid. For those that say "I cheer eveytime I see a greusome video on the internet of some damn Middle-Easterner taking some M-16 fire into his head." you're a retard. For those that say "I hate that area of the world and believe that everyone would be better off if it were just a large sheet of glass." You're fu(ken stupid. And this is why. I spent all most a year over in Iraq with the 3rd Infatry division. I was shot at, I shot at the enemy. Out of a country that has over 10 million ppl a hand full of them are bad, so let's nuke the lot of them. Good thinking shit head. It's thinking like this that gives us a bad name. :asshole Why don't you sit back and think of what it would be like if you lived over their for the past thirty years and your dictator made your whole country look like a bounch of killers and then someone came along and said. I know you don't have the power to do anything about it so we are just going to kill all of you. I think Hitler did something like that. :boid Don't get me wrong, I watched the video, it got me fired up, it made me want to go back and kick some more ass, but it didn't make me want to nuke everyone! below is a pic of me after a shity mission, just happy we made it back and we still didn't want to nuke them!
I just want to say welcome Home.. and thank you for serving our country.
 

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OK heres MY 2c on the whole thread and Ill share something I dont even talk about at home. Like Sgt Marslois I spent time in the Mideast, albeit I was there in Beruit in 1983 when they blew up the Marine Barracks. I have seen first hand the hatred of fanatics but I have also witnessed the kindness of a people over there who were truely grateful that we were there.
Was it hard to decide who was who? Hell yes. Do I regret having done what I did? Hell no. I have several friends here that are from the Mideast, these are hardworking people who came to this country to find a new life for themselves and their families away from the madness of war and the fanatics who will kill, maim and destroy at a moments notice for a "higher" good. I dont resent these people but I do have a hatered of those who will do as I described above.

That's fine, I don't care. The whole world would be better off without that region of the planet. ANd it's not the same mindset as the terrorist anyways. They hate us because we have people on their holy land...I hate them because they killed thousands of innocent people who didn't even see it coming.
I disagree as well Gimp, if you are going to hate a whole group for the actions of some then you are no better than they are.
 
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