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Motorcycle Firearms

By Christopher Lee



With the growing popularity of personal firearms carry among motorcyclists, it's important to find the weapon that best meets our rather specific self defense needs. On occasion, a drunk driver or a car driver experiencing road rage will purposefully ram a motorcycle, which never works out well for the motorcyclist.

Use your superior agility and acceleration to evade the car if you can. However, because the driver is attacking the motorcyclist with a deadly weapon (the car), the motorcyclist is legally entitled to defend him or her self with lethal force, probably a firearm. Will you ever be in this situation? Let's hope not. But should you be, here are some suggestions that might just keep you alive:

When selecting a firearm for motorcycle carry, opt for one that has a ported barrel, especially if your choice is a lightweight gun in a magnum caliber. Ported barrels are a relatively new technology, and they significantly reduce the recoil of the firearm. That means that when you are firing from a moving motorcycle, the shot will be less likely to disrupt your balance.


Additionally, choose a high velocity medium bore cartridge (.357 Magnum, .38 Super, .357 Sig, or 9mm Luger+P). When you are firing at a moving vehicle, remember that the bullet must penetrate safety glass and still stay on target. .357/9mm high velocity or +P rounds are smaller in diameter than the big bore calibers, but pack a big punch; this translates into more penetration power. I use a Taurus Total Titanium Tracker, which is a very accurate seven shot .357 Magnum revolver.


For the same reason, keep relatively heavy weight (for example 158 grain in .357 Magnum) full metal jacket or jacketed soft point ammo in the firearm when on the road. Especially avoid hollow point bullets, which provide less penetration than standard cast lead bullets.


Practice firing the weapon from your motorcycle. For this, you need a large, privately owned, sparsely populated property area where you know ahead of time there will be no people wandering around. Start with dry fire practice. Pick a specific target (like a tree) as you are moving and track it, dry firing the gun 3-6 times at the target. Once you are comfortable taking your eyes off the road for the time it takes to fire 3-6 rounds, load the firearm and practice firing one round at a time at a paper target (so you can see where your bullets hit) in front of a safe backstop. Start with a smaller caliber if you have one available. (Another reason I like a .357 Magnum revolver is that you can use the same gun to fire the lighter .38 Special round.) Work your way up until you can empty all the chambers comfortably and accurately with full power ammunition.


If you decide to fire, FIRE AT THE DRIVER, NOT THE CAR. Obvious in retrospect, make sure you decide to fire at the driver before you engage to avoid time-consuming, and therefore dangerous, mistakes.


Once you hit the driver, get away from the car! The car could go ANYWHERE at that point, and the farther you move away from it, the less likely it is to accidentally hit you.
If you are ever in a situation where you are being attacked with lethal force on the road, it goes without saying that you should try to escape by any means possible that does not endanger your life or the life of innocent bystanders. Evade if you possibly can, resorting to lethal counter-force only as a last resort.
 

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I thought the paragraph about practicing this was funny. How are you suppose to practice on a sportbike?
 

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good point
 

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I dont know where the author of that article is from.. but in almost every state I know of.. there is a duty to retreat. I suppose if youre driving a scooter, it might be hard to get away.. but if youre on a sportbike.. its pretty certain youre going to be able to get away from anything with 4 wheels.

If someone does fire at a driver of a vehicle... They should be aware that real world data shows the driver of said car will most likely live. Ive seen reports from soldiers in iraq, and also that compton shootout about a month ago, that have showed hundreds of rounds fired into vehicles, and the drivers lived. It isnt like the movies....
 

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That is a bunch of BS!

First ported barrels have been around since I was a kid and that a long time!

Second a .357 packs one hell of a recoil and also as the barrel gets smaller the recoil increases.

Third unless you'r a lefty firing a hand gun from a bike and hitting anything is almost imposible.


That dude is on crack!
 

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Tusk said:
One , the artilce is tounge in cheek. Two with the new florida law , you do not need to retreat , at least when it goes into effect in , I think Oct.
right, the law is not in effect yet.. but will be by the end of the year.... so at this time, the duty to retreat is still in effect.

In addition, most people never realized florida always had the castle doctrine, but it applied to your home and place of business.

The thing to remember is... while defending yourself... you need to make sure you dont become the aggressor in the situation.. because the primary aggressor is the one that will be charged... and primary aggressor isnt always the one that started it... it can change during the incident.

While at the end of the year the duty to retreat will be gone, its good advice to still try to retreat if possible, so you can say you did everything you could to avoid having to use force against the suspect.
 

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Funny article...kill 'em all let God figure it out! :)
 

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FloridaMike said:
right, the law is not in effect yet.. but will be by the end of the year.... so at this time, the duty to retreat is still in effect.

In addition, most people never realized florida always had the castle doctrine, but it applied to your home and place of business.

The thing to remember is... while defending yourself... you need to make sure you dont become the aggressor in the situation.. because the primary aggressor is the one that will be charged... and primary aggressor isnt always the one that started it... it can change during the incident.

While at the end of the year the duty to retreat will be gone, its good advice to still try to retreat if possible, so you can say you did everything you could to avoid having to use force against the suspect.


Or make sure the suspect can't tell their side of the story :D
 

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yellowbird said:
Funny article...kill 'em all let God figure it out! :)

That's what we say about IRAQ.
 

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Juggalo said:
throttle lock Maybe
a man who has thought this through. My hero :cheers :lol
 

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Flipping the driver the bird with the left hand is the internationally understood salute to drivers who suck behind the wheel.. However, I predict that this law will be repealed within a year because dead men tell no tales and funeral homes will be doing booming business with peeps getting shot for looking at someone in "the wrong way".
It's so absurd that it had to come out of the Bush(es). Just my $0.02. :ar
 

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I agree with you Dirk. Unless there are witnesses, it might appear that it's one persons word over another.
 

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Tom Cruise's character in Mission Impossible 2 clearly illustrates how easy it is to accurately fire a sidearm while in the middle of a high speed motorcycle chase. Also pay attention his use of the turning stoppie as a fighting move against his nemesis.

We should all rent a copy and practice up... :popcorn

I wonder which stunt riders actually did the tricks in that movie though.
 
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