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Hello everyone, my name is Fabio and i'm from Italy.
I'm 15, turning 16 on 21st january so i'm already studying for theory exam for my driving license, hopefully i pass the theories and once i become 16 i will do the last driving test and get my license.
I see that licenses are very different from country to country, for example i never heard of this MSF course or whatever its called.
The licenses here work like this for motorbikes, ofcourse i'm doing the test for A1 license.

A1: Age 16, restricted to 125cc, 11kW.
A2: Age 18, restricted to 25kW.
A3(or full license): Age 21, no restrictions.

I'm still looking for which bike to buy, i'm very interested in sportbikes since i'll be riding mostly inside the town, and i still know little about them but as of now (may/will probably change) my top bikes in order of preference are:
1. YZF R-125
2. CBR 125
3. Aprilia RS4 125

Though, all of my knowledge from these bikes come from youtube videos and aesthetics
 

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Benvenuto! Remember, this is your first bike, not your last, and you will only have it for a couple years while you learn the basics. So just find a used bike that is inexpensive and well-maintained, and don't worry too much about what particular model it is. You have plenty of time to figure out what your dream bike is.

By the way, your written English is excellent. I might show this post to my teenage kids, to inspire them to work a little harder on their foreign language studies.
 

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I feel for you man. If you survive Italian traffic you'll be rdy for anything. Lol jk

Welcome bud. Ride safe (when you get a bike) lol

Sent from my DROIDX
 

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Welcome !

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My .02, When you start looking, Look for one of the bikes on your list and try to find one that is cheap. Even if it has been dropped. Try to get it cheap, then you can probably sell it for the same price, or close to what you paid for it. Minus insurance and fuel.

I love the smaller CC bikes. I wish we had 125s over here. I would totally ride one. And im 265 lbs haha
 

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Welcome :twofinger



My ex wife is getting married to an Italian guy next weekend. Y'all can keep her :)


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I'm still looking for which bike to buy, i'm very interested in sportbikes since i'll be riding mostly inside the town, and i still know little about them but as of now (may/will probably change) my top bikes in order of preference are:
1. YZF R-125
2. CBR 125
3. Aprilia RS4 125
Hey Fabio welcome, I'm new too, I thought I should offer you my experiences on the two of these I've used. Unfortunately I didn't use the Yamaha, :/ which I know is your favourite, perhaps tell us why?

Any of your three, I don't think you can go wrong.

I have riden extensively on a CBR 125R (more than the RS4!), about 3 hours of riding on a 'pre-learner' course I did, another 3 or 4 for the tests I did to get my learners permit.

This was my first experience with a motorcycle, it felt like magic having my feet on both pegs for the first time, leaning over, I would say that it's a great bike. All of these were good; controls, clutch, instruments, riding position, brakes, and of course, the price.
The not so good; extremely sensitive throttle, looks, kick stand, sound - no deal breakers to me.

Now the Aprilia RS4. I'm completely biased, because I've bought one - and I love it! The Aprilia spoke to me, I got on a brand new one, rode it for 2kms, and I was hooked, sold, over-joyed, it's been 5 days, I still can't wipe the grin from my face. You see on paper, its only a little bit faster than a CBR 125R, but to me it's special.

The good; It's georgeous, full fairing, excellent sound, very revvy, I got it up to about 65km/h my test, I used the quick shifter (which mine has) that's an amazing feature. Great chassis, controls, brakes, the build quality too.

I've already dropped my bike :O completely freaked out, I was rolling slowly, looked behind, then looked back and a car was heading right for me! I was turning left, so I tried to brake (front brake) and it just collapsed on me, BUT! No marks on the fairing! I let it land on my left boot, and just a minor scuff on my left handle bar, otherwise still perfect!

The not so good; the seat is a little bit higher (+27mm, but I couldn't tell), it needs to be revved more, torque and power are higher up, so might make for a worse commuter stopping and starting, clutch is a little harder to use than the CBR too, it's a less popular bike so less people to talk to about it, oh and of course, the price.

You're welcome to have a look at my RS4's pictures here
http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=1676

If you're buying the bike yourself, like the other guy said, maybe get a used one that's in good / ok condition, then save up for a better b***** one.

Another thing that helped me decide was a british review of all three of your bikes and one other, check that out here (the Italian subtitles may work too by the way)


These are my thoughts, hope it helps and good luck on your test and chosing!
 

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Hello again my friends!
I just did a trip to Catania ( a b***** city near mine [gela]) to some motorbike dealers with my father, and talked with a 34 y/o pilot who also won some little regional challenges but whats important is that i spoke with someone who had experience and this is my new favourite bikes list:
1. Aprilia RS4 125 / Derbi GPR 125 4T -> From what we heard and saw, these are the best sport 125cc's around here, i tryied sitting on them too and they're pretty comfortable (i'm 1.79 meters tall and weigh 130kg[yes i'm fat])
2. Honda CBR 125R -> From what we heard and saw, i sit on it and its pretty comfortable but, they say it isn't the best one. It's got standard mechanics but the aprilia/derbi are much more well treaten.
3. Yamaha YZF-R125-> I couldn't get to sit on it because it wasn't available in there back then, but they say it isn't a really good bike, but compared to CBR it is not a good bike, and compared to aprilia/derbi it is a bad and un-safe bike.
4. KTM Duke 125-> i always liked the looks of it, but when we went there it wasn't available, but anyway they said it isn't a really safe bike and they also said that the didn't know much about it.

If you want to see some pictures i took of the derbi and CBR you can visit my facebook profile and check them(i accept friend requests too):
http://www.facebook.com/fabio.toscano.10
 
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