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I was just wondering who has broken their new bike the "traditional" way ie: manufacturer's recommendations :biggrinag vs who has broken in their bike the "other" way. Basically I'm looking for a good reason to open the throttle sooner on my 100 mile bike.
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100 miles is already too late for the hard break in (Mototune - Motoman break in) as it must be done in the first 20 miles.


I would change the oil ASAP to get rid of any of the metal debris and avoid it from going into bearings or places where it isn't supposed to be (that is one of the Mototune's break in most important parts of the process).

After that I would ride it hard or as you would ride it normaly.
 

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I rode mine kinda easy for the first 300 or so miles, then i just rode it like i normally would and avoided redlining. a good tip I have heard is to keep those RPM's dancing, as in don't just let the RPM's stay in opne spot for too long.
 

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Thanks guys. The motoman break-in is why I decided to ask. I read his link for break-ins a year ago so I couldn't remember some of the details like- should be done with 20 or less miles. The fluctuating rpms also makes sense and is also suggested as part of a proper automobile break-in (which is where i have some experience...).
 

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i did mine the other way. i didnt go over six500 rpms for the first 400miles. 8500 rpms up to 800 miles. from 800 miles to 1000 miles i kept it no higher then 10,000 rpms. ever once in a while i went higher but that is the guide lines i went with. i figure if your paying on it for a while you might as well do it right
 

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bill2 said:
I was just wondering who has broken their new bike the "traditional" way ie: manufacturer's recommendations :biggrinag vs who has broken in their bike the "other" way. Basically I'm looking for a good reason to open the throttle sooner on my 100 mile bike.
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The whole debate on whether to break in the engine easy or hard, is redicolous...

Basically, engines now-a-days come from the factory with a certain amount of break-in already.

Just follow the manufacturer's recommendation. Whether the air is a few degrees cooler or hotter on a given day or whether you had a burger for lunch will make more of a difference in your bike's performance, than the way you break it in...
 

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The whole debate on whether to break in the engine easy or hard, is redicolous...
Basically, engines now-a-days come from the factory with a certain amount of break-in already.
Just follow the manufacturer's recommendation. Whether the air is a few degrees cooler or hotter on a given day or whether you had a burger for lunch will make more of a difference in your bike's performance, than the way you break it in...
I'm not looking to extract .00765 more hp from a traditional/ or hard break-in. And I don't think asking people what method they took is rediculous I just want to know what others have done and their reasoning.
Your right, most engines in general come from factory with a certain amount of break in. In fact compression rings (with a proper cyl. finish) should be mostly seated by the time your engine reaches operating temp the first time...
 

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I'm not looking to extract .00765 more hp from a traditional/ or hard break-in. And I don't think asking people what method they took is rediculous I just want to know what others have done and their reasoning.
Your right, most engines in general come from factory with a certain amount of break in. In fact compression rings (with a proper cyl. finish) should be mostly seated by the time your engine reaches operating temp the first time...
I understand you were doing a survey...I am not calling your question redicolous...I'm just fed up with the debate in general.

Its common sense I think...taking it easy on a new engine (or any new mechanical device) makes sense. You can't beat the sh*T off of it right from the get go and expect longevity. That, to me, is just good ol' fashion common sense.
 

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I understand you were doing a survey...I am not calling your question redicolous...I'm just fed up with the debate in general.

Its common sense I think...taking it easy on a new engine (or any new mechanical device) makes sense. You can't beat the sh*T off of it right from the get go and expect longevity. That, to me, is just good ol' fashion common sense.
I wasn't looking to "stir the pot." Thanks for ALL of the input.
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Maybe some people have more money than I do, and to me new sportbikes are not cheap, so I just followed 'the book' on break-in. Besides, who needs 1 more hp on a ZX10R for street riding, if indeed a hard break-in really does make more hp.

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I have almost 300 miles on mine now. I have done close to what the book has said, but my wrist gets a little ichy sometimes.
 

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Canadiankwak1 said:
Its common sense I think...taking it easy on a new engine (or any new mechanical device) makes sense. You can't beat the sh*T off of it right from the get go and expect longevity. That, to me, is just good ol' fashion common sense.
I've had two 150cc bikes, the first one I followed the manufacturer break in process. The thing was SLOW and the engine didn't looked very well when I opened it (showed signs of deformation on the piston and some overheating).

The second one I did it the Mototune way, the bike runs PERFECTLY, it is way faster than the other one, burns no oil (and those engines are known to burn some oil), and it keeps its oil clean for a longer period of time!

In my personal experience I've found that the Mototune way produces more powerfull engines without any premature wear (I will dare to say, lower wear).
 

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When Moto TUne says open up the trottle for 2nd 3rd 4th 5th, what range rpm?
 

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Canadiankwak1 said:
I understand you were doing a survey...I am not calling your question redicolous...I'm just fed up with the debate in general.

Its common sense I think...taking it easy on a new engine (or any new mechanical device) makes sense. You can't beat the sh*T off of it right from the get go and expect longevity. That, to me, is just good ol' fashion common sense.

Engine break-in concerns physics, and mechanical engineering. Not common sense. You dont learn common sense in a tech school, and it doesent dictate the design of the engine or how it works.

Of course you can ride it hard if that is what the machine was meant to do in the first place. (well.... maybe, maybe not- but your reasoning either way is flawed) What you cant do is make an assumption that a sportbike engine is going to behave according to your self-proclaimed "common-sense".

I would believe real-world evidence of engine tear-downs and first hand experiece that says a hard-break in is superior, more so than i would people just saying that you should do what the manual says, or what you think appeals to your common sense.
 
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