[s.dave9]

Hey guys, I've lurked the forums for a few months now and thought now would be a good time to come out of the shadows. I'm currently debating between getting a Daytona 675 or a cbr600rr (both 2009) and i have some reservations and questions about both bikes. Now to quell the fears of most of you NO this is not my first bike. I currently ride a Fz6 and a sv650s with about 10,000 miles under my belt. First hand testimonials about both bikes would be greatly appreciated. Some of my questions are....

1. Which bike would be better suited for everyday riding? I'm worried that the daytona's seating position would be too extreme even for a young guy like me. While the cbr promises more comfort.

2. which bike is gonna be more fun to ride? I love the torque of the daytona and it's mid-range, but at the same time the cbr isn't exactly boring however it requires a lot more revving to find the power.

3.(only one more i promise lol) Any reliability issues with the Triumph brand? I'm well aware of Honda's reputation for quality and i am wondering if the Europeans are up to par.

I'm currently leaning heavily towards the Daytona675 based on it's looks and impressive 3-cylinder engine. However it's aggressive riding position is making me second guess the bikes practicality in real life. while i feel the honda is a much more practical bike,there is nothing about it that really gets my blood pumping like the truimph does.Once again any input will be greatly appreciated.

 

[hinesdeal102]

My 2 cents

Well I have no experience with either but I will let you know some things that I do know. Basically if you get the Daytona you're probably going to find it difficult to find parts if needed (I could be wrong). Both bikes are pretty extreme in terms of riding position but from what I hear the Daytona would be the more extreme of the two. The CBR would be easy to get parts for (honda parts are EVERYWHERE) and the riding position would be far more comfortable I think. I have been on some older CBRs and I thought they were definitely ride-able. You mentioned that you were concerned about midrange and all the good stuff, well today modern 600s like the CBR are designed to be able to kinda switch between peaky holy shit power and decent mid range (I think it has something to do with the EFI and the way the air intake works at certain rpms). Honestly I would go with the CBR, the Daytona has an awkward engine configuration while it seems like it would be the best of both worlds its still kind of rare and might be hard to take care of (due to location). Well that's just my opinion.

 

[ReadNotReed2007]

Unless youve sat on both and came to these conclusionsy yourself, I didnt think the 675 was that much more extreme than the CBR (I have sat on both). They are both supersports after all. One thing about the 675 that I didnt like was how narrow and tall it is. Im a big guy so height doesnt matter but I really didnt like how skinny it was. Felt about half of the other 600s width!

 

[Shamrock627]

1. As for the Triumph, you must also consider the seat height. Are you short? D675 has a high seat height.

2. I don't think you'll be bored with either machine? Both bikes will perform better than the rider anyway. As for the CBR's torque. Don't be so hasty on that torque number. While, yes, it has only 44lbs of tq, it makes 40 lbs of that at 8k rpm. And I can tell you (as I have the 2008 model), the powerband is NOT in the 8k range. It begins screaming at 5k rpms, and by 7 you better hang on. This happens quite quickly.

3. Never owned a D675, so can't comment on it.

****NOTE****
IMO, you should NOT consider the 2009 CBR600RR. They completely neutered the HP in 2009, because it couldn't pass emission laws. The 2009 CBR has 96whp, the 2008 CBR has 105.6whp.

 

[ReadNotReed2007]

****NOTE****
IMO, you should NOT consider the 2009 CBR600RR. They completely neutered the HP in 2009, because it couldn't pass emission laws. The 2009 CBR has 96whp, the 2008 CBR has 105.6whp.

Is there any easy way to gain that power back? Like exhaust or snip/jump a wire?

 

[s.dave9]

Thanks for the input so far! To clarify a few questions no I'm not short but not quite a giant either 5' 10" and 140lbs. I've sat on both bikes and can flat foot both bikes. I've sat on both bikes but have only been able to test ride a cbr in a parking lot. And I have no seat time on the D675. so i can't judge the power difference for myself. Being a minor few dealers are too keen to throw me the keys and tell me to take her for a spin. The narrowness of the D675 does cause me a little concern but it's more the aggressive placement of the clip ons that concerns me.

 

[Shamrock627]

Is there any easy way to gain that power back? Like exhaust or snip/jump a wire?

AFAIK, no. I will look into it further. Some have suggested a 2008 ECU flash.

 

[CMC]

I have the 09 675. It's an amazing and beautiful machine. I've got about 1,200 miles on it so far, just picked it up new a few months ago.

It took me a while to get used to the ergonomics, because my old bike was a Harley. Now that I am used to it, I find it quite comfortable. I am a little taller than you at 6'1", and weigh 170.

I bought the Triumph because I love the looks and sound of it. My friend has a CBR and it's a very nice bike, but when we park by each other, no one asks about his CBR, but I get a lot of compliments and questions about the Triumph.

Triumph has a demo truck touring the country giving test rides, but if you're in the market you'd probably know if it was coming your way.

I'm a sport bike noob so I can't really speak intelligently about the performance, but I'm comfortable saying it will take me years to ever get my skill level near the upper capabilities of this bike.

 

[CMC]

Oh, one more thing - as for reliability and service, I think the Daytona will be just as reliable as the CBR. This is the bike's 4th year, albeit with some significant upgrades for 2009. They have it well sorted. Service is probably a little more expensive than the Honda but the intervals are widely spaced so no biggie.. couple hundred bucks every 7,500 miles or so...

 

[s.dave9]

Cmc, thank you for the input from as an owner. What is the longest length of time you can spend on the bike without serious discomfort, 1hour plus? You also mentioned how the triumph gains more attention, this is another reason for my current choice. Not to say i want people drooling over my bike, but more to be different then every other kid with a generic 600ss who bought it to be cool but has no clue how to ride. I like breaking stereotypes lol.

 

[ShawnF4I]

CBRs are touched by the hand of God himself as they roll off the line...there is no choice.That Triumph may well fly apart on you going down the freeway....Hondas last forever if properly maintained.To bad your set on a new bike...sounds like you need an F4i...comfy ergos in a sport package.Sure you will look cool on that 675..but your lower back and wrist will hurt like hell.

 

[CMC]

My local canyon run is about 2 hours. I'm still entirely comfortable after that. Two hours in stop and go traffic and I would probably want to murder someone, though.

The bike is very narrow, which gets it over and back in turns very quickly but it requires a fair amount of squeezing with your legs to hold your weight back on steep descents and hard braking. I am pretty fit but twice your age, so you would no doubt not even notice it.

I do think that the price premium for the Daytona is easily worth it in terms of cachet. However, I guess you should also consider that parts for a CBR will be cheaper, be it aftermarket performance bits or OEM stuff you might need if you stack it. Good luck and be safe out there!

 

[CMC]

Sure you will look cool on that 675..but your lower back and wrist will hurt like hell.

Maybe, if you have no core strength and noodle-legs. :neener

 

[ShawnF4I]

Maybe, if you have no core strength and noodle-legs. :neener

I was busting his balls......but seriously isn't that bike known for like the most aggressive riding position?I've never sit on one.

 

[s.dave9]

Haha, I'm in fine shape and hit the gym a good 4-5 times a week, but yeah all the reviews i have read made comments on the 675's higher seat and more aggressive position compared to the jap bikes. I love the Daytona but hate the thought of spending such a large amount of money on a bike that will be too aggressive to ride daily.

 

[enos]

Don't worry about Triumph reliability. I have an '02 Sprint ST, I bought it at 24k a year ago and now it's nearing 40k. No problems.
It's well built, but if you'll be doing your own maintenance it becomes clear that the guys who designed it never worked on bikes. They do annoying things like making you take off the side fairings (~11 allen screws each) just to take the belly pan off, allen bolts in tight places (allen sockets are deeper than regular ones, so space becomes an issue when it shouldn't), or placing the oil drain so close to the center stand that you can't fit an oil pan and get oil everywhere (not to mention the upside-down, guaranteed-mess oil filter location). They also didn't put any helmet locks on the bike (a sport tourer!), not even the little tab under the seat. They do improve quickly, so maybe the new bikes are more sane.

The I3 engine is pretty sweet, though, and I'd still get another Triumph.

As for parts, I find that nobody really stocks anything for any bike. Other than tires, oil, filters and MAYBE chains (no sprockets) you'll have to order. Makes no difference if you order from Honda or Triumph. Maybe a cbr is popular enough to keep stock, but I don't see that as much of a benefit. You'll probably sell the bike long before it needs any sort of real servicing anyway.

 

[Shamrock627]

Is there any easy way to gain that power back? Like exhaust or snip/jump a wire?

I found your answer. You can get back "some" of the hp, with a $60 part.

Dyno Jet Power Commander Ignition Retard Control IRC

Ignition retard controller. It "can" be used without a PC3, but you won't regain all of it back. It's recommended to use it alongside the PC3, to regain 6hp. I know it's not 10hp...but hey, some better than nothing.

HOWEVER, I have learned that the 2009 has 3.5-5% more mid-range for 2009.

So, OP...pick your poison.

 

[s.dave9]

Shamrock thanks I'm not real concerned with peak hp since i will almost never find the limits of either bike. I would much rather a usable mid-range for strong acceleration on the street.

 

[F4sSprintST]

it is nice riding something unique

 

[ReadNotReed2007]

I found your answer. You can get back "some" of the hp, with a $60 part.

Dyno Jet Power Commander Ignition Retard Control IRC

Ignition retard controller. It "can" be used without a PC3, but you won't regain all of it back. It's recommended to use it alongside the PC3, to regain 6hp. I know it's not 10hp...but hey, some better than nothing.

HOWEVER, I have learned that the 2009 has 3.5-5% more mid-range for 2009.

So, OP...pick your poison.

Haha dang thanks man!