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Sooo I graduated last December ('12) from the University of Missouri Columbia with a BS-Mechanical Engineering. I ended up starting my current job around March of this year, so I have been there for about 9-10 months.

The current job I have is ehhhh. My official title is "Applications Engineer" and the company I work for is a sales/service center for industrial pumps. We do a lot of work with the local municipalities and industrial plants around here (water service, cooling lines, etc). The pay is not that great, and I am not really doing what I want. I am mostly just inside sales (quoting, processing orders, customer followup, etc) but at the same time I do a fair amount of actually scientific problem solving such as sizing pumps and power requirements.

The reason I took this job was because my GPA was pretty mediocre (2.4ish, worked 40+hours a week all through school, did make honor roll a few semesters) and I figured I should take this job, get some experience, and then look for what would be better.

So I am hitting the point where I should start looking, but I am really unsure as to what I would actually want to do.

There are sooo many options from my looking so far. Design, project management(construction, product development), sales engineer...

I would kind of like a job with some travel (international, if possible), because I have never had the opportunity to do it in the past, and might as well do it while I am young and not tied down. Also having it be on company dime would be nice.

I am pretty open to relocating, depending on where to and for how long.

Any tips/advise to guide me from you more experienced folks? Job does not have to be engineering exactly, but would be nice if it was at least related.
 

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I would get some more solid experience. Shitty GPA's go away pretty quickly when you've got a couple of years of experience in the real world. In my field at least.
 

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I'd stick with that job for a few more years. "Three years experience" sounds good on a resume`. "One year experience" sounds like you got yoruself trained then hit the bricks. What makes the new employer think you're not going to do that to him too?
 

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I'd stick with that job for a few more years. "Three years experience" sounds good on a resume`. "One year experience" sounds like you got yoruself trained then hit the bricks. What makes the new employer think you're not going to do that to him too?
The money is not even close to what it would need to be stick around for 3 years.
 

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Check out some of the oil and gas jobs. They are hiring to work on/around the black sea.

The Middle East (Saudi Aramco, Basrah Iraq).

Libya is a bit dicey, but Tripoli is not bad as long as you don't drink. There are plenty of jobs.

Alaska has some options and Australia (if they issue you a visa).

Afghanistan has oil, but it's all Chinese and they don't have a reciprocity agreement with any nation to process the oil so are shut down. The last tender the govt. released there had zero domestic and zero international respondents. There is no safety or stability.

A buddy works oil and gas in Australia as H&S and works a month on/month off. He travels first class back and forth from Alaska and makes a good buck.

Natural gas is another one. Look up and downstream of the pumping...i.e. Schlumberger and some of the maintenance companies that do pump repair, keep the gennies running, etc. Had one hayseed Texan here in Bahrain that made 6 figures as a site manager for maintenance repairs and was a few bricks short.

Africa has plenty of options if you don't mind shit holes or dengue fever. I skipped a Uganda trip last year because of an Ebola outbreak...lol

With risk comes reward...or at least you get some dodgy visa's you have to explain to the TSA and Customs everytime you come home - true story, I'm always that random guy.

Seriously though, these are all short term contract jobs where I wouldn't think a year or two per location would be as bad as job hopping in the US. They can also move you around from site to site (project to project) within the same company.
 
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Check out some of the oil and gas jobs. They are hiring to work on/around the black sea.

The Middle East (Saudi Aramco, Basrah Iraq).

Libya is a bit dicey, but Tripoli is not bad as long as you don't drink. There are plenty of jobs.

Alaska has some options and Australia (if they issue you a visa).

Afghanistan has oil, but it's all Chinese and they don't have a reciprocity agreement with any nation to process the oil so are shut down. The last tender the govt. released there had zero domestic and zero international respondents. There is no safety or stability.

A buddy works oil and gas in Australia as H&S and works a month on/month off. He travels first class back and forth from Alaska and makes a good buck.

Natural gas is another one. Look up and downstream of the pumping...i.e. Schlumberger and some of the maintenance companies that do pump repair, keep the gennies running, etc. Had one hayseed Texan here in Bahrain that made 6 figures as a site manager for maintenance repairs and was a few bricks short.

Africa has plenty of options if you don't mind shit holes or dengue fever. I skipped a Uganda trip last year because of an Ebola outbreak...lol

With risk comes reward...or at least you get some dodgy visa's you have to explain to the TSA and Customs everytime you come home - true story, I'm always that random guy.

Seriously though, these are all short term contract jobs where I wouldn't think a year or two per location would be as bad as job hopping in the US. They can also move you around from site to site (project to project) within the same company.
All of this does sound very VERY tempting. I am definitely going to consider these options, as the travel idea is very appealing.

I was looking at a few jobs with Anheuser Busch in STL being a process engineer at their brewery, which would be nice. But I think I would like to do that in like 5 years after doing some travel work like above. I will definitely be getting in contact with you about some of these options in the next few weeks.

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I graduated in May 2012 with finance and worked in accounts receivables since then. The work didn't really use my finance degree, but it counts as work experience.

Now I'm getting some legit interviews after 1.5 years of experience. Hustler invited me for an interview and my experience did not match what their ad said, so they still gave me a chance even though the ad said 3-5 years of experience in an analyst position, experience I did not have. So sometimes you can apply to stuff and they may still be interested to invite you to an interview even if don't exactly have that experience. I got that interview because of my time I put in for work experience, not my GPA.

Just don't put your GPA on your resume. Most work interviews never really ask for my GPA, only a few do.
 

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I barely passed, my GPA sucks, I hope no one asks about it, and I also hope I get to walk onto a porn set.
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Could you tell me a little more about his job and what specific stuff he is doing?
basically what he does is write reports after someone cuts an arm off or gets crushed by something and then figures out what safety practices aren't being followed and audits, audits, audits till they are done.

He said that the bush people? (Aussie ******* equivalent?) are terrible. He see's them sling loading with straps when it should be chains, they pass loads over people all the time, yaddi yadda.

He said it's a good gig. Two people on it so he rarely every get's even a call when he is on his month off. I believe he flies into Perth and then drives from there. Not sure on that part. He said the low skilled Aussies are a pain in the ass to deal with and have a chip on their shoulder.

There are many websites out their highlighting these jobs.
 

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I wouldn't be so adamant about travel, business travel leaves a lot to be desired. Most of the engineers I know who travel for business would rather not. Get a good engineering job and you can travel plenty.
 

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It is not necessarily as much travel as it is living as an expat. not better or worse, just different.
 

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It is not necessarily as much travel as it is living as an expat. not better or worse, just different.
I know guys doing that too. Grass is always greener on the other side.

That said, as an engineer if you have a decent career and stay single you can retire early and travel to your heart's content. Know guys that've done that too. Bike makes it easy.
 

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Me and my Dad go through this everytime we see each other. He asks how the F'k I can travel as much as I do for work and I ask him how the F'k he has been able to stand in front of a machining center for the last 40+ years. My last job in the US was as a plant manager in the facility...I should have figured out it would be short lived when the GM said, "One day this can all be yours" as he waved his arms around. My thought was, "4 walls makes this a prison".

It's not for everyone and as a matter of fact I am looking to come back permanently to the US in the next few months. I am good with what I do, but the wife not so much with living in the Middle East. We'll come back for a year or so to pay for the repatriation and then I'll find something where I can travel around and do dumb shit again.

I know guys doing that too. Grass is always greener on the other side.

That said, as an engineer if you have a decent career and stay single you can retire early and travel to your heart's content. Know guys that've done that too. Bike makes it easy.
 
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"I would kind of like a job with some travel (international, if possible), because I have never had the opportunity to do it in the past, and might as well do it while I am young and not tied down. Also having it be on company dime would be nice. "

Go see your US Navy recruiter. They will PAY you to ride around in big grey canoes. Tell the recruiter just what you told us. :cheers
That 4.5 won't matter very much, if at all. GPA is only important if you want a career. If you just want to see the world, meet interesting people and occasionally shoot at them, the US Navy is the way to go. :thankya
The US Military is NOT the place for a career. Not anymore. But for a young man with the itch to travel and a taste for adventure that loves a challenge, there is no better alternative. Sign up for 4 years and after about 3 1/2 the headhunters will be after you. :inout
Experience to flesh out your training, proven leadership skills. You won't get to write your own ticket but you will get to select from many offers.:wait
 
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Not sure about international travel here, but if you are willing to relocate to work, a move to Warren, Michigan could be in order. Here at TACOM, (search TARDEC, we are defence) we are almost always looking to hire mechanical and electrical engineers within certain areas of expertise, as well as designers. My base alone employs some 6000+ military and civilian employees. It's worth a shot. You get in here, continue your education, which they pay for, and you can write your own ticket, my friend. I see it all day long.
 

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"I would kind of like a job with some travel (international, if possible), because I have never had the opportunity to do it in the past, and might as well do it while I am young and not tied down. Also having it be on company dime would be nice. "

Go see your US Navy recruiter. They will PAY you to ride around in big grey canoes. Tell the recruiter just what you told us. :cheers
That 4.5 won't matter very much, if at all. GPA is only important if you want a career. If you just want to see the world, meet interesting people and occasionally shoot at them, the US Navy is the way to go. :thankya
The US Military is NOT the place for a career. Not anymore. But for a young man with the itch to travel and a taste for adventure that loves a challenge, there is no better alternative. Sign up for 4 years and after about 3 1/2 the headhunters will be after you. :inout
Experience to flesh out your training, proven leadership skills. You won't get to write your own ticket but you will get to select from many offers.:wait

He won't be getting into OCS with that GPA. He would have to sign up for enlisted stuff. Not a bad thing, but the pay wouldn't really be better.
 
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