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The MSF course waives the DMV driving test...

So, at 18... I take the MSF, then pass the written and the license is mine?


and for an underage, take the MSF, pass the written, then you have your permit? Then, does the permit just roll over to your license after 6 months?...
 

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No - if you pass both the written and the MSF, you have your license. The MSF course is the substitute for the driving part of the license test. I got the permit after passing the written, then took the MSF course, and all I had to do was hand the DMV the completion certificate and they upgraded my license to full M1 in about 5 seconds.
 

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Daedalus said:
No - if you pass both the written and the MSF, you have your license. The MSF course is the substitute for the driving part of the license test. I got the permit after passing the written, then took the MSF course, and all I had to do was hand the DMV the completion certificate and they upgraded my license to full M1 in about 5 seconds.
What about underage?...
 

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Spi1lz said:
So, a 17 year old can get their straight license after taking the msf, and passing the written?

no 6 month permit?
Search is your friend:

To apply for your motorcycle driver license, you must:

Be at least 16 years old
Have had your permit for 6 months
Have completed driver education and driver training or have your California driver license.
Complete a motorcycle rider training course given by the California Highway Patrol (CHP). All persons under 21 are required to complete the course.
Submit the CHP completion certificate (You will not be required to take the motorcycle driving test at DMV.)
For information about the CHP training course, please call 1-877-743-3411 or visit www.ca-msp.org.

Permit:

To apply for a motorcycle Class M1 or M2 permit, you will need to:

Be at least 15 ½ years of age
Visit a DMV office (make an appointment for faster service)
Complete application form DL 44 (An original DL 44 form must be submitted. Copies obtained by Xeroxing, faxing, or other methods will not be accepted.)
Have your parents' or guardians' signatures on the application form DL 44
Give a thumb print
Have your picture taken
Submit proof you have completed both driving education and driver training. (DL 387, DL 388, DL 388A, OL 237, or OL 238)
Present an acceptable birth date/legal presence document.
Provide your true full name.
Provide your social security number. It will be verified with the Social Security Administration while you are in the office.
Pay the required application fee. This fee is good for 12 months and allows you to take the appropriate law test(s) and skills test three times, if needed, within the 12 month period. This fee pays for both the instruction permit and driver license, if you qualify within that time period. If the application expires, it becomes void and all steps must be completed again.
Pass an vision exam.
Pass a traffic laws and signs test.
Pass an additional law test of motorcycle driving rules.
OR
Show your California driver license, if you have one issued to you.
Pay the application fee
Pass a vision exam
Pass a traffic laws and signs test for motorcycles
 

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ZxHunteR said:
Stop confusing him :eek:nfloor
What, with the facts? :)

Each state is different. CA has slightly different rules for 16-18, 18-21, and over 21.
 

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ZxHunteR said:
I seriously doubt even california would be that strict.
All of the above was for under 18. Here's for over 18:

To apply for your motorcycle Class M1 or M2 license, you must do one of the following:

If you are under 21, you must complete a motorcycle rider training course given by the California Highway Patrol (CHP) and provide a certificate of Completion of Motorcycle Training (DL 389) to DMV to be issued your license. You will not be required to take the motorcycle driving test at DMV if you currently have a California Drivers License.

If you are over 21, you may either choose to complete the course by CHP and provide the certificate OR schedule an appointment at DMV to take the driving test. You have three chances to pass the test.

:rolleyes

We also now have provisional cage licenses with lots of restrictions for the first year. Traffic injuries and deaths took a dive, fortunately.

Sorry for the slight hijack.
 

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Spi1lz said:
The CHP drivers training = the MSF, right?
Yes, it's sanctioned by the CHP. Whatever course you take must be CHP approved.
 
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