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Hi everyone. I joined the forum ealier this year and have been reading and absorbing as much as possible. I took the MSF course 3 weeks ago and I'm eager to get on a bike of my own. I was dead set on a 2008 250R but they are sold out almost everywhere. I also gave it some thought and have been thinking that a brand new bike is not something I want to drop (regardless of wheather it's a 250R or not).

I really don't like the old 250 at all..I looked at the Ninja 500 and although it's a better looking bike I haven't really looked hard enough. Of course, all the people I know that have bikes now recommend a 600 but I'm not falling for it just yet.

I have been looking at older bikes like the Yamaha YZF 600R (1999-2002)
and the CBR600 F1/2/3. Would any of these be suitable for a beginner? I have heard that older 600s are a bit more forgiving than the new ones.I just don't know which 600s these are.

Thanks for any help :cheers
 

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An older 600 would be marginal with 80-90 hp to the rear wheel instead of the current 110. A 500 (Ninja or Suzuki) would be better.
 

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i just read a basically stock 99 r6 doing the 1/4 mile in 11 seconds. also the factory claims the 08 cbr 600 puts out 118 hp but magazines are saying it puts out 105.
 

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I also wanted to add:

I want to keep the budget at $4,000 (so im not looking for an expensive first bike) so if anyone can recommend ANY bike that falls into this $$ let me know. Sportbikes only right now.
 

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i just read a basically stock 99 r6 doing the 1/4 mile in 11 seconds. also the factory claims the 08 cbr 600 puts out 118 hp but magazines are saying it puts out 105.
That cbr difference is probably the factory measuring at the engine crankshaft (which they do) and the mag using a dyno at the rear wheel plus some variations in bikes and measurements.

sandplasma said:
I also wanted to add:

I want to keep the budget at $4,000 (so im not looking for an expensive first bike) so if anyone can recommend ANY bike that falls into this $$ let me know. Sportbikes only right now.
A used Ninja ex500 or a Suzuki GS500 should hit that mark easily with some $$ left for gear.
 

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^I looked into those but cant find used for less than $4500.

I've been looking at these:

Yamaha YZF 600R
Honda CBR600 F1/F2/F3
Honda CBR600 F4i?
Kawa Ninja 250R/500
Suzuki Gs500F
 

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if you can manage some patience, wait until after the summer and we get into october or so. demand tends to go down, meaning prices should go down some too.

keep on looking - the deals are out there. patience will save you money, haha
 

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I have been looking at older bikes like the Yamaha YZF 600R (1999-2002)
and the CBR600 F1/2/3. Would any of these be suitable for a beginner? I have heard that older 600s are a bit more forgiving than the new ones.I just don't know which 600s these are.
They arent really. My 99 gsxr600 is faster in a straight line than a stock 2007 600rr.

My bike put down 103rwhp on a dyno.
 

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I'd looks at SV650s before older 600s. The only 600 that I could recommend to a new rider would be a Katana because they've got a real forgiving power delivery and about 70-75hp at the tire. Only real problem with them is weight, but the older 600ss bikes are only about 15-20lbs lighter ... not really an issue IMO.

Either bike will be better than you in teh twisties and plenty fast in a straight line. Those two are the absolute fastest I would recommend. 500s would be better still (I started on a ninja 250 personally)
 

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Thanks guys, I've definitely not scratched the 250 out just yet. Hoping to find a good deal on one at least so I can use it til the end of season.
 

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I'd looks at SV650s before older 600s. The only 600 that I could recommend to a new rider would be a Katana because they've got a real forgiving power delivery and about 70-75hp at the tire. Only real problem with them is weight, but the older 600ss bikes are only about 15-20lbs lighter ... not really an issue IMO.

Either bike will be better than you in teh twisties and plenty fast in a straight line. Those two are the absolute fastest I would recommend. 500s would be better still (I started on a ninja 250 personally)
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They arent really. My 99 gsxr600 is faster in a straight line than a stock 2007 600rr.

My bike put down 103rwhp on a dyno.
Not to bash or anything, i'm just curious on how you got that conclusion that your 99GSXR is faster than a stock 07 600RR. what mods do you have?

On a stock comparison the 600RR should be faster (105hp to the wheel).
 

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A coworker is selling a 1995 YZF 600 (no R) for $2500, I bet I can get him down to at least $2200. The bike has 17K miles but its in very good condition and has new rubbers among other new items.

Is this bike without the R still super twitchy?
 

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If you can find a sv650 in your price range then that would probably be the best bet. If not, Id definately look into a cbr 600 f3, f4, or f4i. Also an older yzf600 would fair well. My first bike was a f3 and I loved that thing. It had enough get up to keep up with the newer 600 but you it didnt break your heart when you dropped it.
 
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