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Because of charges being filed and not knowing the legal system I am not gonna metion names or locations.

I lost a dear friend today over BS. He was riding (fully geared as usual) when some @#%$ squid jackass wheelied up next to him lost control and knocked him under another vehicle killing him instantly. He left behind a 6 month old daughter. I am done riding ! For all the fathers and mothers on this board keep this in mind. Just because you are safe and ride safe there is allways some young punk somewhere putting lives at risk. To me this bike aint worth leaving my family. If I wanted to get killed I would have stayed in the Marines.
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I went today to identify the body and the family attorney told me told me they may only be able to get this other rider with involuntary Manslaughter. Can anyone tell me why this would not fall under a murder charge. From my understanding IM is a lesser crime.

"rumor" has it this guy was on a suspended DL for going 135 just 3 months ago.Thanks to a inside source, can this be used in sentencing.

And thanks to all for your caring thoughts.

I understand that you can't quit living due to unfortunate accidents, but I have to go outside and I have to drive to get to work. But I don't have to throw my leg over my bike and ride. I just feel doing this I am taking a chance of leaving my 10 month old fatherless and now leaving my godchild without a father fiqure. Who knows maybe I will get over these emotions, but right now it just seems selfish. I truely hope no one is offended.

PS Some of you shop owners I thinking of parking his bike at different shops as a eye opener to younger riders buying litre bike and trying to be Biker Boyz or getting all pumped from a video and trying those tactics on the public street. Let me know if you woudl be interested. ( this is all pending on the approval of his wife )
 

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Squids and wheelies go together like white on rice.

I have a friend that wheelies all the time and has some close calls and nearly crashes, it's only a matter of time but he doesn't believe us. Hopefully he will learn his lesson before he has to learn from experience.

RIP to the rider that lost his life unexpectedly.
 

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while reading this it felt like my body was weightless and chumy. I dont know if any body else feels this way when a rider dies but i always do. RIP and my condolences for those left behind.




this sucks :( :a2
 

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Stuff like that just gets me so down and I just want to hit stupid people who are killing those who are doing the right things whether in a cage or on a bike you have no right to be stupid! I'm so sorry to hear that. done venting
 

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sucks to see some unfortunate incidents like that happen when they could have easily been avoided.
 

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rip, my condolences
 

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It's one thing when somebody kills their own ass but when you kill somebody else due to your stupidity and arrogance you should get more then just manslaughter. I don't think they should get jail time, instead they should have to pay restitution for the rest of their life to the family that he distroyed and make it ALOT! Like 99% of his take home!
 

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It's one thing when somebody kills their own ass but when you kill somebody else due to your stupidity and arrogance you should get more then just manslaughter. I don't think they should get jail time, instead they should have to pay restitution for the rest of their life to the family that he distroyed and make it ALOT! Like 99% of his take home!
The amount wouldn't matter IT is the weekly writing of a check and mailing
it As a reminder of what happend NOT allowing him to forget
 

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Yup, wheelies and other stupid stunts don't hurt anyone. I'm sure this other rider who died was just "in the way" and "an annoyance" to the wheelie dude. I like the idea of making him send a check every week, he should also have to write a letter every week to the child left without a father, explaining why he felt the need to take their father away.

Ok, time to rant....

People better pray to whatever God they believe in that I don't decide to go into politics after I retire from the Air Force, because I WILL MAKE WAVES and I WILL MAKE EXAMPLES of the people like this. You wanna do a wheelie on a public street, fine! I'm taking your license away for a year and crushing your bike! You wanna take an innocent life? FINE! Be prepared to pay with yours!

Ok, rant off.

This shit pisses me off to no end......
 

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Damn man, I Hope this sends a wake up message to those here who do those kinds of things in public. I think its great when a bunch of stunters get together and see how long they can hold a wheelie... and someday i want to too, but you have to keep it away from other people. Shit happens and then you end up like this kid who has to live with the fact that he killed a father and husband.

rip rider..
 

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I went today to identify the body and the family attorney told me told me they may only be able to get this other rider with involuntary Manslaughter. Can anyone tell me why this would not fall under a murder charge. From my understanding IM is a lesser crime.

"rumor" has it this guy was on a suspended DL for going 135 just 3 months ago.Thanks to a inside source, can this be used in sentencing.
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Sorry to hear about the loss. To answer your question, All crimes commited fall under "requirements of culpability" which are defined as "culpable mental states". For a person to be prosecuted, the crime commited has to fall under one of the four culpable mental states which are intentional, knowingly, recklessly or with criminal negligence. In order for a person to be charged with the offense of "murder"(tx. penal code 19.02) the person's mental state at the time the offense was commited would have to be either intentionally or knowingly. In this case,this means that the person committing the offense either intinded with his actions to cause the death of another person, or, knew the actions of the offense would cause the death of another. The culpable mental state of manslaughter (tx. penal code 19.04) is recklessly, which means the person commiting the offense, unintentionaly caused the death of another person but the reckless actions of the offender ultimatley resulted in the loss of an inocent life.

In my oppinion, I would love to see the idiot get charged with murder and have the punishment quickly carried out, but the "powers that be" say different and their the ones that make the laws. By the way, "Manslaughter" is a felony in the 2nd degree which is punishable by not more than 20 years and no less than 2 years imprisonment. In addition to imprisonment the individual may also be punished by a fine not to exeed $10,000.00.

Hope this helps.
 

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Because of charges being filed and not knowing the legal system I am not gonna metion names or locations.

I lost a dear friend today over BS. He was riding (fully geared as usual) when some @#%$ squid jackass wheelied up next to him lost control and knocked him under another vehicle killing him instantly. He left behind a 6 month old daughter. I am done riding ! For all the fathers and mothers on this board keep this in mind. Just because you are safe and ride safe there is allways some young punk somewhere putting lives at risk. To me this bike aint worth leaving my family. If I wanted to get killed I would have stayed in the Marines.
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insane1
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Reply I need some explaining
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I went today to identify the body and the family attorney told me told me they may only be able to get this other rider with involuntary Manslaughter. Can anyone tell me why this would not fall under a murder charge. From my understanding IM is a lesser crime.

"rumor" has it this guy was on a suspended DL for going 135 just 3 months ago.Thanks to a inside source, can this be used in sentencing.

And thanks to all for your caring thoughts.

I understand that you can't quit living due to unfortunate accidents, but I have to go outside and I have to drive to get to work. But I don't have to throw my leg over my bike and ride. I just feel doing this I am taking a chance of leaving my 10 month old fatherless and now leaving my godchild without a father fiqure. Who knows maybe I will get over these emotions, but right now it just seems selfish. I truely hope no one is offended.

PS Some of you shop owners I thinking of parking his bike at different shops as a eye opener to younger riders buying litre bike and trying to be Biker Boyz or getting all pumped from a video and trying those tactics on the public street. Let me know if you woudl be interested. ( this is all pending on the approval of his wife )



After my recent events and posts like these I've hopped on the "shoulda started smaller" band wagon. Although I'm not gonna preach it to someone that wont listen, I'll do my best to inform. The group I ride, well we've been discussing opening a bike shop here in town. There is only one shop and they only work on japanese bikes. Anyway, I've told them that if we follow through on this, that me "being the financial backing" would enforce a policy that no rider with less than a year experience would be sold anything over a 500CC bike. From experience, and the fact that I couldn't face a mother coming into my shop screaming I sold her son/daughter, his/her coffin. The other shop in town, doesn't even ask how long you've been riding or if you even have a "M" endorsment. Will I lose business? No because the bikes I sell will most likely be returning customers thanking me for persuading them to that bike as a learner, and trading up for a larger bike, now that they have experience under their belt.

I feel for his family, and send my best wishes.
 

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RIP, and my deepest condolences. I hope this jackoff gets NAILED.
 

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My heart goes out to that fellow and his family. Thing is, on a different post which detailed the rollover accident in St. Louis, some readers on this board seemed indifferent to the accident, hinting that the stunters did nothing wrong. I don't understand.

There is no place for that kind of riding on occupied public roads. Empty parking lots and landing strips, sure, but to put a bike on one wheel anywhere near innocent bystanders is just stupid.
 

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So sorry to hear about this. I think about shit like this every time I put my leg up over my rocket. I am a mother of 2 great kids, allthough I do have some speedy girl in me, I really try and ride very carefull becuase I want to come home to my babies and husband at night. I am willing to bet this guy was probably thinking the same thing every time he got on his. Really unfortuanate that some ignorate jackass took his this man's life..
I hope that everyone that thinks it is cool to do stunts on the road full of other traffic gets to read this post and maybe stop and think about what could happen.
There is a time and place for everything and stunting is cool as long as it is done in the right place at the right time and that is not on a road full of other traffic.
Articles like this one when I read about people just being pure stupid really makes me mad.. Almost hatefull, as well as scared.

Rest in peace brother.......
 

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You know it's funny how none of the usual stunters are responding in this thread. Maybe there is a reason for that, hmmmmm :lol
 

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insane1
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Reply IT'S OVER
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Because of charges being filed and not knowing the legal system I am not gonna metion names or locations.

I lost a dear friend today over BS. He was riding (fully geared as usual) when some @#%$ squid jackass wheelied up next to him lost control and knocked him under another vehicle killing him instantly. He left behind a 6 month old daughter. I am done riding ! For all the fathers and mothers on this board keep this in mind. Just because you are safe and ride safe there is allways some young punk somewhere putting lives at risk. To me this bike aint worth leaving my family. If I wanted to get killed I would have stayed in the Marines.
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insane1
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Reply I need some explaining
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I went today to identify the body and the family attorney told me told me they may only be able to get this other rider with involuntary Manslaughter. Can anyone tell me why this would not fall under a murder charge. From my understanding IM is a lesser crime.

"rumor" has it this guy was on a suspended DL for going 135 just 3 months ago.Thanks to a inside source, can this be used in sentencing.

And thanks to all for your caring thoughts.

I understand that you can't quit living due to unfortunate accidents, but I have to go outside and I have to drive to get to work. But I don't have to throw my leg over my bike and ride. I just feel doing this I am taking a chance of leaving my 10 month old fatherless and now leaving my godchild without a father fiqure. Who knows maybe I will get over these emotions, but right now it just seems selfish. I truely hope no one is offended.

PS Some of you shop owners I thinking of parking his bike at different shops as a eye opener to younger riders buying litre bike and trying to be Biker Boyz or getting all pumped from a video and trying those tactics on the public street. Let me know if you woudl be interested. ( this is all pending on the approval of his wife )
My prayers are with you and I believe god and only god decides when your born or when you die so live and ride or not, but don't be fooled by thinking your doing gods job buy not riding.
 
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