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Im thinking of getting an LCD projector instead of a widescreen TV.


I can have like an 80inch screen instead of a 60. And chicks love big things.


If anyone wants to comment if they have one, and how is it compared to a standard television set.

I do remember the projectors at school. But that was more used for viewing the computer the professor was using.
 

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I Install Custom Home Theater's for a living. Sony makes a half decent lcd projector. I would go with a DLP though. How much are you looking to drop on this? Another thing to consider, projector's need a very dark room to look good. Sony makes a 70" lcd rear projection tv that would work better in a normal room.
 

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im just looking for a used one.


I do have a 32inch sony tv already. And right now, im just looking for middle priced entertainment system. Im happy with the one i got now, but im going to upgrade my receiver maybe this summer/fall.


I was off and on with the entertainment industry. I do know you can get a 1000 dollar receiver, but thats nothing. You can get b***** and better receivers. Then tv critics can be real a/v geeks too. how focus the screen is and how great the quality is.

in 10 years when im more settled down, ill be spending the typical 50 grand or more for a state of the art home theatre, but i just want something thats "good" for now.


Im just looking to spend a few hundred on a used one. It doesn't have to be perfect but i want it to put out decent DVD resolution.
 

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Cooksey said:
I Install Custom Home Theater's for a living. Sony makes a half decent lcd projector. I would go with a DLP though. How much are you looking to drop on this? Another thing to consider, projector's need a very dark room to look good. Sony makes a 70" lcd rear projection tv that would work better in a normal room.
I have a 42" Rear projection Toshiba that is about 2 years old... LOVE it... fig you'll drop $1100 or so (prob less)
as said above for projection you need a dark, dark room which is one of the reasons I went with the Toshiba..
 

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A projector, IMO, is more of quantity than quality. I would go for a rear-projection TV instead. It's too much of a hassle to set a room up for a projector and I hear that those bulbs do not last as long as rear-projection TVs.

I may be biased though. I have one of those 55" LCD rear projection from Sony and absolutely love it. It's good that you are doing some research before dropping your cash on it.
 

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Unless you have a room where there will be literally close to zero ambient light from the outside, don't waste your time on a projector.
 

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I want a projector foy my comp...

Just don't want to throw down the money...

Close the blinds on your window, shut the doors and turn off the lights...

Whooo damn, that was hard... And installing a projector is pretty simple... Wire it and stuff if up on the wall on the opposite side... I am sweating just thinking about it... :lao
 

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Project_2501 said:
Does the word "resolution" mean anything to you? How about "Image Quality"?
some projectors look pretty sweet...

And if you get a decent one, the projection in a room would look pretty clean...

shit we have projectors at my old highschool that we watched movies on in class that where crisp as shit...

you get what you pay for...
 

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The bulbs in 100% of the LCD projectors I've worked with are expensive trash. They last "up to" 300 hours and cost about a hundred bucks to replace. Granted, these projectors are for computer stuffs, but television shouldn't be too different. I also remember hearing "Don't play games on it! It'll ruin the projector!"

If you think you can handle it, build your own projector for about $200. Get a nice bright overhead projector from staples, a PSOne LCD screen, and a couple fans to cool the beast down. I had one at my old college apartment before a drunken idiot decided to vomit on it, and it caught fire. Overhead bulbs cost less than $30, and last thousands of hours.

Of course, if you are willing to spend a little more than $200, a metal halide (sp?) bulb in a custom plywood box using some camera lenses will produce a superior experience. There are several forums devoted to building your own projector... I'll see if I can find one.
 

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Spi1lz said:
you get what you pay for...
Exactly, and in order to fully appreciate a projector, one must have a room perfectly void of all outside light. If light seeps in, the image will wash out and lose clarity.

However, you sidestepped both resolution and image quality. Projectors by nature do not have high resolutions and are not as fit as a high end LCD panel for displaying complex images.
 

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The bulbs in 100% of the LCD projectors I've worked with are expensive trash. They last "up to" 300 hours and cost about a hundred bucks to replace. Granted, these projectors are for computer stuffs, but television shouldn't be too different. I also remember hearing "Don't play games on it! It'll ruin the projector!"

If you think you can handle it, build your own projector for about $200. Get a nice bright overhead projector from staples, a PSOne LCD screen, and a couple fans to cool the beast down. I had one at my old college apartment before a drunken idiot decided to vomit on it, and it caught fire. Overhead bulbs cost less than $30, and last thousands of hours.

Of course, if you are willing to spend a little more than $200, a metal halide (sp?) bulb in a custom plywood box using some camera lenses will produce a superior experience. There are several forums devoted to building your own projector... I'll see if I can find one.
You must also realize that the Image Quality in these is severly lacking.
 

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Project_2501 said:
Exactly, and in order to fully appreciate a projector, one must have a room perfectly void of all outside light. If light seeps in, the image will wash out and lose clarity.

However, you sidestepped both resolution and image quality. Projectors by nature do not have high resolutions and are not as fit as a high end LCD panel for displaying complex images.
Cheaper... And you can project a damn image the size of your wall...

Do you understand the cost of a TV that big? Or better yet like 4 HUGE tv's to fill in that same spot one projector can...

It's the bang for the buck... Projectors have TV's beat all day...
 

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Spi1lz said:
It's the bang for the buck... Projectors have TV's beat all day...

Not necessarily. If your "bang" is image quality, then no, projectors don't have TVs beat. If your "bang" is resolution, then no, projectors don't have TVs beat.

If your "bang" is only size, then yes, projectors have TVs beat.
 

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DoppelgangerONE said:
Not necessarily. If your "bang" is image quality, then no, projectors don't have TVs beat. If your "bang" is resolution, then no, projectors don't have TVs beat.

If your "bang" is only size, then yes, projectors have TVs beat.
Size is obviously what I was talking about... Because I was substituting 4 TV's for the size of one projector...

Yes, the image quality isn't as good...

But imagine watching some porno on YOUR WALL... Not your TV...
 

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Project_2501 said:
You must also realize that the Image Quality in these is severly lacking.
I beg to differ. Properly focused, the 640x480 image presented with a PSOne LCD is every bit as decent as the one from a $1300 projector. And with $1100 to spend on booze, it's not like you can see the movie anyway :) The OHP method presents a much BRIGHTER image than modern LCD projectors. This means it can be seen in well lit rooms better.

Now if you want NICE image quality, a custom box with the LCD from a Dell 2405FPW will provide 1080p resolution. And it'd still be about $600 cheaper than buying a 1024x768 LCD projector. Oh, and last 3x longer per 1/3rd price bulb.

That being said, there is nothing that can compare to a CRT-style display device. Any LCD has issues with contrast, high-end projectors included. The image presented will only be as good as the LCD screen used. The image quality of a projector vs. a CRT is crap. Regardless of how bright you get the source light, you're still going to be able to see whatever it is you're projecting on to, and as a result, the image will appear "blurred" and "faded".
 

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DoppelgangerONE said:
Hey TeeJay, is this write up:
http://www.denguru.com/2004/11/13/supersize_your_tv_for_/
basically the same idea you used when you made one with the PSone LCD monitor??

If so, did the projector need to be adjusted alot because of the small size of the PSone monitor??
That's closer to a "custom box" setup than what I did - It'll probably produce better results. What I did was buy an overhead transparency projector (On sale for $85 at staples), two pieces of balsa wood, and a PSOne LCD screen. I set the PSOne screen ($15 for all of ten minutes at Best Buy. I love pricing mishaps) on top of the two pieces of wood so that the LCD itself wasn't touching the glass, which gets rather hot. I then took a couple old 80mm fans I had lying around, and jury-rigged them to the power supply on the projector (Which, as luck would have it, had a practically untapped 5V line!). If you're going to build one yourself using the PSOne LCD, get a OHP with a HELL of a lot of brightness - The LCD itself appears to be tinted, which negatively affects the brightness.

. _____ <- PSOne LCD
[]____[] <- Balsa wood
\_____/ <- Projector


The image presented was sharp and clear. The screen-door effect took a while to get used to, though. It took me about ten minutes of sliding the focusing lens up and down the connecting shaft before I got a decent picture. The end result was about 70-ish inches of Doom 3.

Edit: I actually took a closer look at the link. That's pretty much what I did, but I used balsa wood instead of styrofoam, a cheaper LCD, and I raised my LCD off the glass more.
 

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That's closer to a "custom box" setup than what I did - It'll probably produce better results. What I did was buy an overhead transparency projector (On sale for $85 at staples), two pieces of balsa wood, and a PSOne LCD screen. I set the PSOne screen ($15 for all of ten minutes at Best Buy. I love pricing mishaps) on top of the two pieces of wood so that the LCD itself wasn't touching the glass, which gets rather hot. I then took a couple old 80mm fans I had lying around, and jury-rigged them to the power supply on the projector (Which, as luck would have it, had a practically untapped 5V line!). If you're going to build one yourself using the PSOne LCD, get a OHP with a HELL of a lot of brightness - The LCD itself appears to be tinted, which negatively affects the brightness.

. _____ <- PSOne LCD
[]____[] <- Balsa wood
\_____/ <- Projector


The image presented was sharp and clear. The screen-door effect took a while to get used to, though. It took me about ten minutes of sliding the focusing lens up and down the connecting shaft before I got a decent picture. The end result was about 70-ish inches of Doom 3.

Edit: I actually took a closer look at the link. It's very similar, but that guy's going to melt his LCD if he leaves it on the glass!

Okay, did you actually have to take the LCD for the PSone apart? Like, take the actual TFT monitor out of the housing?? I'm assuming you did, and then the light from the projector replaces the backlight in the PSone monitor...correct??
 
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