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· KH, Rest In Peace Brother
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For the most part, all of us ride, and a lot of us have been involved in a traffic collision of some type in the past. After reading a few threads about bike wrecks it came to me......does everyone know how to deal with a wreck? I figured I would put my experience and training out there to try and help others when they are involved in a traffic collision. It can be carried over to passenger cars as well.

Some background about your author so you know it is just not someone talking out of their rear end. I was a firefighter for 2 years with a specialty in vehicle extrication (cutting people out of very serious wrecks), 11 years as a medical first responder and 6 1/2 years as a law enforcement officer with extensive training and experience in vehicle collision investigation and reconstruction of collision scenes.


Some things I discuss are planning, equipment, reactions/what to do or not to do:

Planning:

Planning can take on many roles. A few things that can help you in case of an emergency are:

Try and determine the area you plan to ride in and get a list of all law enforcement agencies, emergency medical services and fire stations in the area. Write down the phone numbers for these locations.

Remember, dialing 911 from a cell phone doesn't always route you to the nearest people that can assist in the event of a traffic collision.

If it a planned group ride try and get a person in the group that some medical training and designate them as a medic in case of a collision. If you can't find a person that has some medical training many EMS locations offer basic first aide as a free class to anyone that wishes to learn it as well as CPR. If possible volunteer to take the class for your group of riders.

If it is a solo ride it might still be a good idea to learn basic first aide in case you have to perform it on yourself. As many people with medical training as possible on the ride the better off the group will be.

Let people not involved in the ride know your planned route (if it is planned) and an estimated time of when the ride will end.

If the ride changes in time or location call and let someone know as soon as possible so as not to cause any unnecessary worry or drama.

Make sure you and your equipment are in the best possible condition, this will greatly increase your chances of a better outcome.

Equipment:
These are bikes so we cannot carry a car trunk full of equipment. But you can distribute equipment over a few riders to make it easier.

Somewhere on your helmet place a sticker that reads (DO NOT REMOVE HELMET) several places make these stickers and hand them out free or for little charge.....pick up a couple for your friends too.

Cell phones are pretty much a must these days anyways and most riders have their's with them. Make sure it is charged up and ready to go.

A small flashlight will do wonders! They are small and can be tucked into bike trunks very easily and will be useful for light and signaling other motorists as well.

Small bottles of water can assist with heat fatigue, flushing injuries, putting out fires (or at least slowing them down).

Copies of your medical cards should be kept on every person as well as a form of identification and emergency contact information.

Small medical first aide kits will help a lot! If you do not have space for one some items I might suggest: a couple of small ACE warps (these can be used to make splints or wrap injuries), emergency blankets (these are small these days and can be carried in a jacket pocket <about the size of a folded handkerchief> they are reflective and will be asset to make a stretcher and keep people warm if they go into shock), gauze pads (used to cover injuries and wipe away blood....if you can get a military combat pack it will have a large gauze pad and an elastic band on it), roll of athletic tape (used to tape gauze pads, make splints, hold wounds closed). More can be added to this list as you see fit.

If you have a medical condition let others know! If you wear a medical bracelet or necklace make sure to wear it.

Pick at least two locations on your gear and place a piece of tape on it with your blood type and allergies!

A digital camera is also pretty handy as well to take pictures of the scene; it will speed up the process with the insurance companies and make it easier to reconstruct the scene if anything has to be moved.

Rubber/latex gloves (these will be used to keep from possibly contracting anything and getting debris into a wound.....if you don't have them with you....do what you feel you have to do).

Reactions on the scene:
First and foremost, whether you’re an injured rider or not is to get control of yourself!!! A calm brain is far better than one going in a hundred different directions.

If you are not involved in the collision get your bike out of the scene and off the roadway if possible...if not get it as far to the right as possible.

Let the "medic" focus on doing his job at hand. If you are the medic make a quick assessment of the injured and get the most critical person first and work your way to the least critical.

If the group is large enough send one person in each direction to stop traffic at least one hundred feet in each direction.

Once they get traffic stopped have them go vehicle to vehicle and ASK IF THEY ARE A DOCTOR, NURSE, PARAMEDIC, COP, FIREFIGHTER (all of these have training in medical aide and know how to help there the fastest).

If no one brought a cell phone or there is no signal, ask the people to call for medical assistance and police or if they can to a payphone and call for assistance.

Unless a person is under a bike leave the bikes where they lay!! This will help the police officer that will have to work the scene this is also true for other vehicles as well. Leave the downed rider in the position they are in and DO NOT MOVE THEM UNLESS IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!!!! If a person is impaled on an object....LEAVE THEM IMPALED!! (This might be the only thing keeping them alive and should only be done with the proper equipment).

If anyone complains of head, back, neck problems or tingling sensations MAKE them law down off the roadway.

Some things I will not be able to go into, as far medical aide goes due to state laws varying exclusions to the "good Samaritan clause", primarily keep their heads still by placing even pressure on both sides of their helmet (each place teaches different techniques on the use of a C Spine).

If you are a solo rider without a group try not to move but if you are in a blind spot try and get out of the roadway or into a clearer line of sight for other drivers to see you.

Try to keep injured riders talking. If they are talking they are breathing and if they are breathing they are alive!!

Take lots of photographs, especially if you have had to alter the scene.

Do not let gawkers into the accident area; if they are not helping they do not need to be there!!

If you are an injured rider do not try and be macho. Tell them you are injured.

When speaking to anyone DO NOT ADMIT FAULT OR LIE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED!!! The physical evidence will speak for itself. Do not talk to the press or reveal any names of injured riders until families can be notified, the last thing a loved one wants to see is their loved one stretched out on a roadway...hence the emergency contact numbers.. Give true statements to the police officers that are investigating it as well as the appropriate insurance companies. When you have had time to calm down a few hours later write the events down as to what happened, what you saw and what you did. As time passes these things get fuzzy in our minds so a good log will be beneficial later on.



A special thanks to Fargin_Bastige and tmkreutzer for all their assistance with the writing of this article!
 

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Most of us wear our gear in the event of a accident but few think about what may need to be done in the event that someone gets really hurt. Great article!

Just to add to locations that you can receive first aid/cpr training > American Red Cross.
 

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Thanks Officer! That's some great information and great food for thought. A lot of people who ride bikes are not prepared for a wreck. It's great to think about what you will need to have and need to do if the worst does happen.
 

· KH, Rest In Peace Brother
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freeky929 said:
Thanks Officer! That's some great information and great food for thought. A lot of people who ride bikes are not prepared for a wreck. It's great to think about what you will need to have and need to do if the worst does happen.

Thanks mang :beer

I just hope everyone gets something out of it that may save their lives or someone else's.
 

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I was lucky in my last wreck, even though I broke a shoulder and foot, the cops and paramedics never got involved so I didn't have any fines or ambulance costs or any kind of BS. Someone stopped in a pickup truck (another biker, this community is awesome) and took me and the bike (scooter actually) home. After I got home, and realize I was a little more messed up than I thought, I called Kaz and he took me to the hospital. The whole thing happened completely under official radar. Not saying that's the best way to go about it, in fact it probably isn't, but it's the cheapest most hassel free way to do it. :) Rule of thumb, your fellow biker friends are your single best asset when you wreck.
 

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Good article. I'd like to add a couple of points (coming from experience of having been the first at the scene, aka, the first to _not_ crash).

1) You may not have cell phone coverage. It's rare these days, but it does happen. In this case someone from the group will have to ride to get help. Make sure that this person is calm and collected before they leave. Verify that they have a rough location of the crash site (closest landmark is handy) to describe to the 911 operator where to send help. Make sure to remind that rider to ride very slow and cautious, their mind will not be on the riding, but most likely on the accident.
If you are that rider, go a bit slower than you think you can. It's hard to do, but if it's essential that help is dispatched, then it's critical that the rider will reach a phone from which to dial 911.

2) When the rider has been removed by the parametics, ensure that the group gathers and everyone is ok to continue to ride (often to the hospital). Again peoples minds will most likely not be 100% on their riding.

Final comment: I couldn't agree more on not letting anyone move the rider. I was first a the scene of an accident when 2 buddies crashed last year, one seriously injured. We didn't let him move eventhough he was screaming in pain. I rode for help (no cell phone coverage). Turns out he'd compression fractured his back.
Luckily he's both walking and riding again now. :)
 

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Just one thing, as an EMT, we are taught to, in most cases remove the helmet while maintaining cervical stabilization, because helmets can often interfere with access to the patients airway. A lot of people aren't trained in the safe way to remove a helmet so i guess they should probably leave it on, but I just wanted to throw that in there.

Great write-up by the way!
 

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nice post Officer! Very informative.
 

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Akheloce said:
I knew exactly what to do last wreck... I wiggled my toes when asked, I blinked my eyes,
and in a few days I filled out insurance forms :)
:eek:nfloor

Agreed, great post officer. Always wondered some of this stuff as well. Now im eager to get into an accident so i can use my new-found knowledge. j/k.
 

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great thread! :cheers

Jaxx is right, we have a section in the EMT course about helmet removal while maintaining c-spine stabilization. But for the layperson, the best advice is to flip the visor all the way open to allow for the best air flow, but leave the helmet on and leave the person supine on the ground.
 

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Sweet, nice write up occifer! Since I just became extremely allergic to a medication I'll have to pay attention to your advice. Thanks man.
 

· KH, Rest In Peace Brother
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Anytime guys! :dblthumb Glad you all liked and got some info from it.
 

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Not a rider yet myself, but I am trained as a first responder. I have been first responder on an accident scene before. Some advice, calm down take a breath; assess the situation, most importantly is it safe for you to be in the road or wherever you are, if it isn't, make it safe. Cruel as it sounds, they teach all first responders to do nothing if it will put them into unacceptable risk. And ALWAYS wear gloves, whether your treating someone you know or not, always wear gloves. Getting someone elses blood on you sucks, they normally take you in for all sorts of communicable diseases test etc... Remember that you are number one priority, if you get hurt trying to help someone else then there are twice as many people to treat, and you won't be able to help.
 

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Great write up Officer737, makes you take a second and think about not only what could possibly happen to you but also what to do if it does happen.

The link I attached is another write up from a friend of mine that is a paramedic back east. Not trying to overshadow, I just think that the more information that you have about these things the better off you will be if the situation ever arises.

http://myfilez.net/uploads/misc/Madison_Sportbikes_Safety_and_First_Aid.doc
 
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