Ya your right they arent the same what I meant was the Susuki 1000's make 182 at crank, and my Honda on the title makes 165 at crank. That seems to me to be a big difference. But on the wheel of my Honda when I dynoed it it was 141.78. I did see another comparison with exhausts and they also were what my stock bike dynod 141.68. That compares to my results. Very small difference but a 10 hp difference from bike to bike is twice what a after market exhaust would give you. I wish I owned the Honda bike that puts 150 at the wheel that would mean if I got an after market slip on I would make right what the Susuki makes at the wheel stock around 155. Maybe your right maybe some Honda's vary that much. (Anyone see a 06-07 CBR1000rr make 150 at wheel stock.) Anways I dont care I never opend my bike up even close to max so it doesnt matter to me. The bike is still competitive at the races. I'd rather have Honda quality over a hp difference. I new this when I bought my bike. Unlike hp stats quality is a much longer lasting attribute. I dont like the exhaust on Susuki on the side its ugly. I will Dyno my bike again in April.