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I have a question about "clutch wheelie" on the FZ6. There is another thread about "power wheelies" at
http://forums.sportbikes.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270853&page=1&pp=15&highlight=wheelie+clutch
I thought I would add this other technique to a new thread, if you guys can give me some insight.
Disclaimer: First off, wheelies are dangerous and should be avoided. Makes sense. I would not advocate them and I'm sure others aren't either.
I have previously done "power wheelies" with general easy on the FZ6. I just ride along in 1st gear, rpm at 9,000, reverse blip the throttle (off/on) so as to bounce the front, then quickly whip open the throttle. Up it comes (1 or 2 feet) and off I go. I have read that this is the basic technique but have been caution that power wheelies are inherently more risky than clutch wheelies. (Non-linear torque curve with diminishing overturning moment can cause quick looping.) OK, so lets learn clutch wheelies.
I have read a good write up on clutch wheelies at:
http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72156
He writes:
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How to clutch wheelies
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There are a couple different methods for clutching wheelies. I prefer the second method.
Method 1: First accelerate with the clutch engaged. Then, with the throttle still opened, pull in the clutch with one finger, to the point where the clutch disengages. With the engine still under throttle, quickly let the clutch back out as the tach is rising.
Method 2: Close the throttle, and then pull the clutch in all the way, with one finger. Then twist the throttle and dump the clutch.
When learning to clutch, only rev up the engine a little bit at first before letting out the clutch. This will give you the feel for clutching. Then gradually increase the rpm’s before dumping the clutch, until the front end jumps up close to the balance point. Reduce the throttle as the front end comes up to the balance point. If it comes up too far, gently push the rear brake to bring the bike back forward. When clutching second and third gear wheelies, the bike may need extra help, depending on what bike it is. If clutching alone doesn’t get the wheelie up, then bounce at the same time. This is done by pushing down on the bike (with your arms and legs) at the same time you open the throttle, and then leaning back slightly when dropping the clutch. I is not a good idea to pull on the bars. Pulling up on the bars may cause the wheelie to come up funny and wobble.
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What I have done is:
Method A
- Cover rear brake, in case needed.
- Sit upright with arms near straight (dont jerk bars).
- Roll along in 1st gear at 25 kph, at low rpms.
- Pull in (disengage) clutch, and rev engine up to 10,0000 rpm.
- Then, dump clutch (abruptly let go of lever), and add a bit more throttle.
- Suddenly, bike rises but only 6 inches - poor.
Method B
- Sames as Method A but ...
- Pull in (disengage) clutch, and rev engine up to 9,0000 rpm.
- Twitch the front brake to get the suspension to bounce.
- Simulaneously, as the front is bouncing up,
dump the clutch (abruptly let go of lever), and add a bit more throttle.
- Suddenly, bike rises up 2 feet - good.
My questions:
1) My implementation of Method A seems to earn feable results (6 inches). I suspect that I can get higher results if I rev'd it higher before dumping the clutch - but I don't for fear of looping it. Is more rev's what is needed?
2) My implementation of Method B is better results however it is far less consistent. The effectiveness depends on perfectly synchronizing the up bounce with the clutch dump. Is my method correct?
3) Is the FZ6 engine (stock sprockets) adequate to use Method A, or is Method B really needed?
4) For my clarification, is "dumping" the "sudden and abrupt release (let go) of the clutch lever"? This seems to be a very "uncontrolled" maneuver.
5) I don't know if it is possible with the FZ6, but I would prefer to have more control on the clutch lever: such as rapid but controlled release of clutch lever, where my two fingers stay wrapped around the lever even when releasing. Can this be done?
http://forums.sportbikes.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270853&page=1&pp=15&highlight=wheelie+clutch
I thought I would add this other technique to a new thread, if you guys can give me some insight.
Disclaimer: First off, wheelies are dangerous and should be avoided. Makes sense. I would not advocate them and I'm sure others aren't either.
I have previously done "power wheelies" with general easy on the FZ6. I just ride along in 1st gear, rpm at 9,000, reverse blip the throttle (off/on) so as to bounce the front, then quickly whip open the throttle. Up it comes (1 or 2 feet) and off I go. I have read that this is the basic technique but have been caution that power wheelies are inherently more risky than clutch wheelies. (Non-linear torque curve with diminishing overturning moment can cause quick looping.) OK, so lets learn clutch wheelies.
I have read a good write up on clutch wheelies at:
http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72156
He writes:
========================================================
How to clutch wheelies
-----------------------
There are a couple different methods for clutching wheelies. I prefer the second method.
Method 1: First accelerate with the clutch engaged. Then, with the throttle still opened, pull in the clutch with one finger, to the point where the clutch disengages. With the engine still under throttle, quickly let the clutch back out as the tach is rising.
Method 2: Close the throttle, and then pull the clutch in all the way, with one finger. Then twist the throttle and dump the clutch.
When learning to clutch, only rev up the engine a little bit at first before letting out the clutch. This will give you the feel for clutching. Then gradually increase the rpm’s before dumping the clutch, until the front end jumps up close to the balance point. Reduce the throttle as the front end comes up to the balance point. If it comes up too far, gently push the rear brake to bring the bike back forward. When clutching second and third gear wheelies, the bike may need extra help, depending on what bike it is. If clutching alone doesn’t get the wheelie up, then bounce at the same time. This is done by pushing down on the bike (with your arms and legs) at the same time you open the throttle, and then leaning back slightly when dropping the clutch. I is not a good idea to pull on the bars. Pulling up on the bars may cause the wheelie to come up funny and wobble.
========================================================
What I have done is:
Method A
- Cover rear brake, in case needed.
- Sit upright with arms near straight (dont jerk bars).
- Roll along in 1st gear at 25 kph, at low rpms.
- Pull in (disengage) clutch, and rev engine up to 10,0000 rpm.
- Then, dump clutch (abruptly let go of lever), and add a bit more throttle.
- Suddenly, bike rises but only 6 inches - poor.
Method B
- Sames as Method A but ...
- Pull in (disengage) clutch, and rev engine up to 9,0000 rpm.
- Twitch the front brake to get the suspension to bounce.
- Simulaneously, as the front is bouncing up,
dump the clutch (abruptly let go of lever), and add a bit more throttle.
- Suddenly, bike rises up 2 feet - good.
My questions:
1) My implementation of Method A seems to earn feable results (6 inches). I suspect that I can get higher results if I rev'd it higher before dumping the clutch - but I don't for fear of looping it. Is more rev's what is needed?
2) My implementation of Method B is better results however it is far less consistent. The effectiveness depends on perfectly synchronizing the up bounce with the clutch dump. Is my method correct?
3) Is the FZ6 engine (stock sprockets) adequate to use Method A, or is Method B really needed?
4) For my clarification, is "dumping" the "sudden and abrupt release (let go) of the clutch lever"? This seems to be a very "uncontrolled" maneuver.
5) I don't know if it is possible with the FZ6, but I would prefer to have more control on the clutch lever: such as rapid but controlled release of clutch lever, where my two fingers stay wrapped around the lever even when releasing. Can this be done?