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Looks like the offspring of an FZ and an FJR ... but made by Honda.
 

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Sold as the Honda Deville sp? in other countries for the last couple of years Honda's cheap and cheerful tourer with the empasis on cheap if you see a bike as cheap basic transport this is probally the machine for you they seem to be realtivly reliable the suspension brakes and performance reflect it purchase price.
 

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It's a Pacific Coast from the bargain bin.
I loved the Pacific Coast PC800. I will definitely get one at some point, especially when I move to where there are real seasons.

The bike the OP cites looks like an all around useful bike. But not nearly as cool as the PC800.

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Shaft drive? Fail.
 

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Jacking, cost, weight, repairs.

Some engineers need to remember KISS.
Well having run a shaft drive of the last 60 000mile and still going. Repairs have cost me much less than the equivalent chain drive over the same bike, the anti jacking systems fitted to a lot of modern bikes (modern meaning the last 20 years) are quiet effective, although I think the Honda in question is devoid of such a system. Yes they weigh a bit more but not enough IMO to be a significant disadvantage in the wet the bit more rearward weight helps hook up IMO.
 

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Well having run a shaft drive of the last 60 000mile and still going. Repairs have cost me much less than the equivalent chain drive over the same bike, the anti jacking systems fitted to a lot of modern bikes (modern meaning the last 20 years) are quiet effective, although I think the Honda in question is devoid of such a system. Yes they weigh a bit more but not enough IMO to be a significant disadvantage in the wet the bit more rearward weight helps hook up IMO.
Meanwhile belt drive is superior to shaft in every one of those respects.
 

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Jacking? Don't know much about shaft drive.
Shaft drive bikes as you power on depending on the rotation of the shaft as you power on the pinion will try and "climb the crown wheel" this puts a twisting torque into the drive box which on a lot of older bikes had the shock absorbers bolted them. The twisting action would be transfered into the suspension causing the rear to jack or lift under acceleration. Conversely on trailing throttle the rear will squat.

There are various suspension setups that have been introduced to combat this, the first was Magni's Paralellogramo for the MV race bikes that took the likes of Agostini to his multiple victories. More common are system like the BMW paralever, Guzzi's CARC etc. Al lot of earlier shaft drive riders simply learnt to ride around it.
 

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Shaft drive? Fail.
I used to think so, but not anymore.

I like this bike and when I was still bleeding Honda red I used to wish they'd bring the Dullville over here. I'm glad to see they finally have. It would be an incredibly practical bike here in the Northwet.
 
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