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I have had some trouble getting my '05RR to start. It recently stopped died on me while I was traveling home from work. I took off from a light and a few seconds later it just died on me. Had to push it off to the side and I have not been able to get it to start again. When I turn the key my dash lights up and the red light just stays on and my fuel pump doesn't prime (makes no noise at all). I have downloaded the 04 manual (similar to my setup) and have done almost all the troubleshooting it asks.

Here is what I have been able to check so far.

1) Took harness from fuel pump off and tested for current going to the fuel pump but got no volts.

2) Took off both the fuel pump cut-off relay and the engine cut-off relay and tested both of those. When I put 12V through each of those my multimeter showed that there was continuity. I assume that means that when they are given current that they are functioning correctly ( I hear a clicking sound when putting current through them)

3) Checked to see if my engine cut-off switch was working by removing the engine cut off relay and putting the key in the on position. I hooked the multimeter up to the place where the relay was and with the key in the on position it showed 12V and when I turned the engine cut off switch to the off position the multimeter showed 0V. This I assume means that my switch is functioning correctly.

4) I took my cpu off and test the two (grey and black) connections to the cpu as per the manual. The grey showed 12V across the pins that I was to check (as per the manual) and the black gave me continuity when I tested those pins suggested by the manual. The means my cpu is getting current and that it is grounded properly. This seemed to indicate that my cpu was bad so I purchased a new one and it came in yesterday and when I connected it to the bike, STILL nothing.

The only thing that I have been unable to test is the bank angle sensor since it requires a special tool and connection cable that I do not have access to.

QUESTION:

Does anyone know how I can bypass the bank angle sensor to test if that may be the problem? I am unsure of how to connect the wires after disconnecting the harness from the sensor.

Anyone with some suggestions? I would REALLY appreciate any kind of help or suggestions? I have come to my wits end and I really miss riding my bike!!

EDIT: Forgot to mention I already checked all my fuses and the battery I have is brand spanking new!
 

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Check the kill switch on the right clip-on. I've heard of several instances where the switch went bad and the bike wouldn't start.

Also, make sure your sidestand switch tests out OK.
Well, the kill switch seemed fine. I tested it out by connecting my multimeter to the place where the engine-cut off relay connects. I turned the key to the on position and got 12v and when I hit the kill switch there was 0v so I assume that the switch is working properly.

I have also tried the side stand switch and it seems to be showing continuity. Do you know how I could bypass the side stand switch?

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Really obious question how old is the battery? I suggest you remove it and get it load testes just because its supplying 12 volts doesn't mean its supplying the current to run stuff. Other thing to do is put the battery on charge and see if the bike fires up if thats the case you most likely have a charging system issue.
 

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It could be a stator problem. It's a known issue with the '04-05 1000RR. Honda has even extended the warranty on the stator for the '04-05. See if your VIN is included in the list and contact Honda to have your stator and flywheel replaced under warranty. The stealership I took mine to even replaced my battery. Here's the extended warranty notice from Honda......Good luck though, I've heard of some dealerships not honoring this warranty extension.

2004-2005 Stator Warranty Extension info- US

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2004 CBR1000RR (49-state)
JH2SC570*4M000023 thru JH2SC570*4M006812

2004 CBR1000RR (CA)
JH2SC571*4M000016 thru JH2SC571*4M001407

2005 CBR1000RR (49-state)
JH2SC570*5M100007 thru JH2SC570*5M104196

2005 CBR1000RR (49-state Repsol)
JH2SC574*5M100001 thru JH2SC574*5M101509

2005 CBR1000RR (CA)
JH2SC571*5M100001 thru JH2SC571*5M101334

2005 CBR1000RR (CA Repsol)
JH2SC575*5M100001 thru JH2SC575*5M100522


*************************************************

American Honda has determined that the
ACG/charging system (stator and flywheel) on
affected 2004-2005 CBR1000RR models may
overheat and cause a short circuit, resulting in
insufficient battery charging.
To ensure customer satisfaction, American
Honda is extending the warranty an additional
six years for the ACG only.
If a customer complains that the battery of
their 2004-2005 CBR1000RR is not recharging
properly, proceed to the INSPECTION section
of this Service Bulletin.


All 2004-2005 CBR1000RR customers within
the affected VIN range will receive a letter
notifying them of the extended warranty. If
the ACG is malfunctioning, they should take
their motorcycle to a Honda motorcycle
dealer to have the ACG inspected and, if necessary,
replaced.
A copy of the customer letter is reproduced
on page four of this Service Bulletin.

Before you begin the repair procedure, check
to see if the unit has already been repaired.
• If there is a punch mark below the first letter
of the VIN, the unit has been repaired. If
the customer complains of a charging
problem, proceed with normal troubleshooting.
• If there is no punch mark below the first
letter of the VIN, the unit has not been
repaired. Proceed to the INSPECTION section
of this Service Bulletin.
NOTE: This is a warranty extension, NOT a
product update. It is your responsibility to
make sure the VIN is within the seven year
period of the unit’s purchase and delivery
date to the customer.


INSPECTION

1. Remove the left middle cowl (refer to section
3-8 of the 2004-2007 CBR1000RR Service
Manual).
2. Remove the wire band, and disconnect the
alternator 3P (natural color) connector.
3. Check each yellow terminal (of the
alternator side connector) to ground.
There should be no continuity.
Also, check the resistance between the three
yellow terminals using a circuit tester.
Standard: 0.1 – 1.0 ohm (at 20° / 68° F)


• If there is no continuity to ground on any
of the three yellow terminals and the resistance
is within specification, there may be
another problem. Proceed with normal
troubleshooting.


• If there is continuity to ground on any of
the three yellow terminals, or the resistance
is not within specification, replace
the ACG with the countermeasure parts
kit. Go to the REPAIR PROCEDURE and
PARTS INFORMATION sections of this
Service Bulletin.


REPAIR PROCEDURE

To replace the ACG, refer to section 11 of the
2004-2007 CBR1000RR Service Manual.

IDENTIFICATION

After you have completed the repair, place a
punch mark below the first letter of the
VIN, which is located on the right side of the
steering head pipe.

PARTS INFORMATION

REQUIRED PARTS:
ACG SET
P/N: 06311-MEL-305
H/C: 8700213
The set includes the following parts:
Flywheel Comp.
Stator Comp.


WARRANTY INFORMATION


Normal warranty claim submission requirements
apply. After completing the repair, submit
one warranty claim per unit with the
following information:
WARRANTY CLAIM TEMPLATE:
2004-2005 CBR1000RR Stator Warranty
Extension
Template: Q47A
Flat Rate Time: 1.2 hours


TEXT OF CUSTOMER LETTER
May 2007
Dear CBR1000RR Owner:
American Honda has determined that riding a 2004-2005 CBR1000RR motorcycle in the low rpm range for an
extended period of time may cause the ACG to overheat, which causes a short circuit of the stator windings,
resulting in insufficient battery charging.
Warranty Extension
To ensure long-term satisfaction with your Honda, American Honda is providing a six-year warranty extension
for the ACG (charging system) on 2004-2005 Honda CBR1000RR motorcycles. This is in addition to the standard
one-year warranty that comes with your CBR1000RR. Please note that this Warranty Extension does not
apply to any CBR1000RR that has had its electrical system modified, aftermarket electrical accessories installed,
or accident damage.
What should you do?
If your CBR1000RR is starting normally, you do not need to do anything at this time.
If, however, your 2004-2005 CBR1000RR is becoming increasingly difficult to start (such as after refueling during
a ride), because the engine cranks slowly or will not crank at all, the battery may have discharged while riding
due to a faulty ACG. (Note: This warranty extension does not apply to starting problems that result from
improper battery storage or any other electrical system malfunction.)
If you believe your 2004-2005 CBR1000RR is showing signs of a faulty ACG, please call any authorized Honda
motorcycle dealer and make an appointment to have your motorcycle inspected and, if necessary, repaired.
Although the repair will take less than three hours, please plan to leave your CBR1000RR for a day to allow the
dealer flexibility in scheduling.
If you previously paid for a repair for this problem, you may be eligible for reimbursement. Please complete and
mail the enclosed Request for Reimbursement Form.
Who to contact if you experience problems.
If you are not satisfied with the service you receive from your Honda dealer, you may write or call:
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Motorcycle Customer Support
Mail Stop 100-4C-7B
1919 Torrance Blvd.
Torrance, CA 90501-2746
(866) 784-1870
What to do if you feel this notice is in error.
This notice was mailed to you according to the most current information we have available. If you no longer own
this vehicle, or some information in this notice is incorrect, please fill out and return the included, postage-paid
Information Change Card. This will help us update our records.
If you have questions.
If you have questions about this notice, or need assistance with contacting a Honda dealer, please call Motorcycle
Customer Support at (866) 784-1870.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you. Thank you for your CBR1000RR purchase and your
cooperation.
Sincerely,
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Motorcycle Division



TEXT OF CUSTOMER LETTER REIMBURSEMENT FORM


If you have previously paid for this repair.
Request For Reimbursement
2004-2005 CBR1000RR ACG Warranty Extension
If you meet the following qualifications, American Honda Motor Co., Inc. will reimburse you for the
cost of ACG replacement. No reimbursement will be made for other costs or repairs.
1. The vehicle must be a 2004-2005 CBR1000RR.
2. The previous ACG replacement must have occurred before May 18, 2007.
3. You must have a repair bill showing itemized parts and labor costs, CBR1000RR model, year,
VIN, name, address and phone number of the repair shop, and the date of the repair. The ACG
must have been replaced due to a low output condition. There must be verification of
payment, such as a copy of a cancelled check, cash receipt, or paid invoice.
4. To qualify for reimbursement, it is not necessary that you still own the affected 2004-2005
CBR1000RR, but you must have been the owner when the ACG was replaced. Only the owner
at the time of repair may request reimbursement. Do not request reimbursement for the
expenses of any other owner.
IF YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR REIMBURSEMENT:
Fill in the blanks; please print clearly.
Name: __________________________________________________ ____________________
Street Address: __________________________________________________ ____________
City: __________________________________________________ _______ State: _________
Telephone: ________________________________
Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) ___________________________________________
Total Amount Requested __________________________________________________ ___
Mail this form together with a copy of your repair bill and verification of payment to:
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Customer Support, M/S 100-4C-7B
1919 Torrance Blvd.
Torrance, CA 90501-2746
Please allow 6–8 weeks for reimbursement processing.
This form is provided for dealer information and customer photocopies if needed.
 

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I must have missed this letter! My repsol falls under one of those vins so I guess I will have to take it in to check it out. I just hate the fact that I will have to take it to the only honda shop in town which really sux for service and work. The last time they did my valve adjustments they left my bike leaking oil from two spots and I have to always keep an eye on my oil now. Also they have failed to replace some of the plastics screws and bolts that they take off sometimes. I just really want to get my bike back up and running. Thanks for the info.

It could be a stator problem. It's a known issue with the '04-05 1000RR. Honda has even extended the warranty on the stator for the '04-05. See if your VIN is included in the list and contact Honda to have your stator and flywheel replaced under warranty. The stealership I took mine to even replaced my battery. Here's the extended warranty notice from Honda......Good luck though, I've heard of some dealerships not honoring this warranty extension.

2004-2005 Stator Warranty Extension info- US

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2004 CBR1000RR (49-state)
JH2SC570*4M000023 thru JH2SC570*4M006812

2004 CBR1000RR (CA)
JH2SC571*4M000016 thru JH2SC571*4M001407

2005 CBR1000RR (49-state)
JH2SC570*5M100007 thru JH2SC570*5M104196

2005 CBR1000RR (49-state Repsol)
JH2SC574*5M100001 thru JH2SC574*5M101509

2005 CBR1000RR (CA)
JH2SC571*5M100001 thru JH2SC571*5M101334

2005 CBR1000RR (CA Repsol)
JH2SC575*5M100001 thru JH2SC575*5M100522


*************************************************

American Honda has determined that the
ACG/charging system (stator and flywheel) on
affected 2004-2005 CBR1000RR models may
overheat and cause a short circuit, resulting in
insufficient battery charging.
To ensure customer satisfaction, American
Honda is extending the warranty an additional
six years for the ACG only.
If a customer complains that the battery of
their 2004-2005 CBR1000RR is not recharging
properly, proceed to the INSPECTION section
of this Service Bulletin.


All 2004-2005 CBR1000RR customers within
the affected VIN range will receive a letter
notifying them of the extended warranty. If
the ACG is malfunctioning, they should take
their motorcycle to a Honda motorcycle
dealer to have the ACG inspected and, if necessary,
replaced.
A copy of the customer letter is reproduced
on page four of this Service Bulletin.

Before you begin the repair procedure, check
to see if the unit has already been repaired.
• If there is a punch mark below the first letter
of the VIN, the unit has been repaired. If
the customer complains of a charging
problem, proceed with normal troubleshooting.
• If there is no punch mark below the first
letter of the VIN, the unit has not been
repaired. Proceed to the INSPECTION section
of this Service Bulletin.
NOTE: This is a warranty extension, NOT a
product update. It is your responsibility to
make sure the VIN is within the seven year
period of the unit’s purchase and delivery
date to the customer.


INSPECTION

1. Remove the left middle cowl (refer to section
3-8 of the 2004-2007 CBR1000RR Service
Manual).
2. Remove the wire band, and disconnect the
alternator 3P (natural color) connector.
3. Check each yellow terminal (of the
alternator side connector) to ground.
There should be no continuity.
Also, check the resistance between the three
yellow terminals using a circuit tester.
Standard: 0.1 – 1.0 ohm (at 20° / 68° F)


• If there is no continuity to ground on any
of the three yellow terminals and the resistance
is within specification, there may be
another problem. Proceed with normal
troubleshooting.


• If there is continuity to ground on any of
the three yellow terminals, or the resistance
is not within specification, replace
the ACG with the countermeasure parts
kit. Go to the REPAIR PROCEDURE and
PARTS INFORMATION sections of this
Service Bulletin.


REPAIR PROCEDURE

To replace the ACG, refer to section 11 of the
2004-2007 CBR1000RR Service Manual.

IDENTIFICATION

After you have completed the repair, place a
punch mark below the first letter of the
VIN, which is located on the right side of the
steering head pipe.

PARTS INFORMATION

REQUIRED PARTS:
ACG SET
P/N: 06311-MEL-305
H/C: 8700213
The set includes the following parts:
Flywheel Comp.
Stator Comp.


WARRANTY INFORMATION


Normal warranty claim submission requirements
apply. After completing the repair, submit
one warranty claim per unit with the
following information:
WARRANTY CLAIM TEMPLATE:
2004-2005 CBR1000RR Stator Warranty
Extension
Template: Q47A
Flat Rate Time: 1.2 hours


TEXT OF CUSTOMER LETTER
May 2007
Dear CBR1000RR Owner:
American Honda has determined that riding a 2004-2005 CBR1000RR motorcycle in the low rpm range for an
extended period of time may cause the ACG to overheat, which causes a short circuit of the stator windings,
resulting in insufficient battery charging.
Warranty Extension
To ensure long-term satisfaction with your Honda, American Honda is providing a six-year warranty extension
for the ACG (charging system) on 2004-2005 Honda CBR1000RR motorcycles. This is in addition to the standard
one-year warranty that comes with your CBR1000RR. Please note that this Warranty Extension does not
apply to any CBR1000RR that has had its electrical system modified, aftermarket electrical accessories installed,
or accident damage.
What should you do?
If your CBR1000RR is starting normally, you do not need to do anything at this time.
If, however, your 2004-2005 CBR1000RR is becoming increasingly difficult to start (such as after refueling during
a ride), because the engine cranks slowly or will not crank at all, the battery may have discharged while riding
due to a faulty ACG. (Note: This warranty extension does not apply to starting problems that result from
improper battery storage or any other electrical system malfunction.)
If you believe your 2004-2005 CBR1000RR is showing signs of a faulty ACG, please call any authorized Honda
motorcycle dealer and make an appointment to have your motorcycle inspected and, if necessary, repaired.
Although the repair will take less than three hours, please plan to leave your CBR1000RR for a day to allow the
dealer flexibility in scheduling.
If you previously paid for a repair for this problem, you may be eligible for reimbursement. Please complete and
mail the enclosed Request for Reimbursement Form.
Who to contact if you experience problems.
If you are not satisfied with the service you receive from your Honda dealer, you may write or call:
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Motorcycle Customer Support
Mail Stop 100-4C-7B
1919 Torrance Blvd.
Torrance, CA 90501-2746
(866) 784-1870
What to do if you feel this notice is in error.
This notice was mailed to you according to the most current information we have available. If you no longer own
this vehicle, or some information in this notice is incorrect, please fill out and return the included, postage-paid
Information Change Card. This will help us update our records.
If you have questions.
If you have questions about this notice, or need assistance with contacting a Honda dealer, please call Motorcycle
Customer Support at (866) 784-1870.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you. Thank you for your CBR1000RR purchase and your
cooperation.
Sincerely,
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Motorcycle Division



TEXT OF CUSTOMER LETTER REIMBURSEMENT FORM


If you have previously paid for this repair.
Request For Reimbursement
2004-2005 CBR1000RR ACG Warranty Extension
If you meet the following qualifications, American Honda Motor Co., Inc. will reimburse you for the
cost of ACG replacement. No reimbursement will be made for other costs or repairs.
1. The vehicle must be a 2004-2005 CBR1000RR.
2. The previous ACG replacement must have occurred before May 18, 2007.
3. You must have a repair bill showing itemized parts and labor costs, CBR1000RR model, year,
VIN, name, address and phone number of the repair shop, and the date of the repair. The ACG
must have been replaced due to a low output condition. There must be verification of
payment, such as a copy of a cancelled check, cash receipt, or paid invoice.
4. To qualify for reimbursement, it is not necessary that you still own the affected 2004-2005
CBR1000RR, but you must have been the owner when the ACG was replaced. Only the owner
at the time of repair may request reimbursement. Do not request reimbursement for the
expenses of any other owner.
IF YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR REIMBURSEMENT:
Fill in the blanks; please print clearly.
Name: __________________________________________________ ____________________
Street Address: __________________________________________________ ____________
City: __________________________________________________ _______ State: _________
Telephone: ________________________________
Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) ___________________________________________
Total Amount Requested __________________________________________________ ___
Mail this form together with a copy of your repair bill and verification of payment to:
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Customer Support, M/S 100-4C-7B
1919 Torrance Blvd.
Torrance, CA 90501-2746
Please allow 6–8 weeks for reimbursement processing.
This form is provided for dealer information and customer photocopies if needed.
 
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