I know this topic has been discused quite a bit on her but I have a few questions. For one, why do most of you seem to hate on the fz6r? I understand the nameing was stupid on yamahas part but the bike mags seem to like it. Why do most seem to go 650 or sv over it? Is there a flaw I'm missing? And on the note of the sv, why is it so highly praised? I understand it is highly upgrade able but out of the box the reviews say the suspension is horrible. Btw whichever I get will likely be 09+ with full fairings, I'm like warm on nakeds. At first the bike will obviously be used for mild commuting but once I become confident I would love to take whatever I get to the track. As far as upgrade differences aside from perhaps a bar swap I don't plan on ever really modding witch ever I get. And the main goal once I feel comfortable will be an r6s I love the way that bike feels, just scares the hell out of me right now. So in the end I'm leaning toward the fz6r, if I can find one, more so for the i4 sound then anything I guess. So please persuade me where to go based purely on fact please.