[Tittys04]

Alright guys, need some advice here. Last night I was riding home from a family thing with my girlfriend, I was riding at about 9:30 pm, in no hurry, just regular cruising. Well one of my speedo lights is out, the one that I really need, so I can't tell how fast I'm going, so I just try to stay with traffic. I come to this construction zone and I know that I'm going a little faster than the rest of the traffic, but barely. So I'm moving along and on the right hand side I see a cop sitting there, I slow down a little because I honestly have no idea how fast I'm going, but I just keep going. A few miles down the road I see this car swoop in behind me and come in for the kill. I got pulled over and the cop said I was doing 79 in a 60 (construction zone). The cop was really great about it, I explained my situation (which I will explain soon) and he was very helpful. He wrote me up for 10 over.

Now, my situation is that I am 20 yrs old with an IL license. I live in Michigan temporarily until I can get the f out of school and out of this place. But in IL, if you recieve 2 tickets within 24 months before you're 21, your license gets suspended. I got one about a year ago or so, so this would be my second. The cop told me to set up an Informal hearing, he would be there and we would work something out. My problem is that I know he's going to be cool, he really was a good guy, but I'm afraid I'll be stuck with a magistrate that doesn't really care, and he won't give me any slack. I'm hoping for court supervision or something, but I don't know what's going to happen. So I was thinking, is it possible for me to get a Michigan License for the time being, until I'm 21, and then go back and get an IL license? or is this a huge hassle? I have a normal license and cycle endorsement, so would I have to retake everything? or will it just transfer?

any advice is greatly appreciated

 

[Litigy]

Pretty sure it doesn't transfer. I bet they will be pretty lenient and not suspend it. You said the cop seemed cool.

I say just go to the hearing, and if it gets suspended you only have one choice, getting the new license in Michigan. Doesn't seem like you have very big problems here.

 

[shayrgob]

DON'T get a license in MI if u lose yours in IL. I lost my license in GA and got one in IL and then when I went back to GA to visit, I got pulled over, and guess what?

I went to fucking jail for driving on a suspended licennse. They didn't care that I had a license in IL b/c to them, I didn't have a license. So just don't risk it, it's not worth it.

oh, and what school in MI? i'm going to Ferris state U.

 

[Tittys04]

DON'T get a license in MI if u lose yours in IL. I lost my license in GA and got one in IL and then when I went back to GA to visit, I got pulled over, and guess what?

I went to fucking jail for driving on a suspended licennse. They didn't care that I had a license in IL b/c to them, I didn't have a license. So just don't risk it, it's not worth it.

oh, and what school in MI? i'm going to Ferris state U.

Wow, that's a bit ridiculous. I don't know if I could get a MI license once mine is suspended in IL, I'm not sure how that all works. I think more what I'm asking than anything is do you think it would work if I went ahead and got my license in MI before the hearing, or directly after (just before I have to pay the ticket)? My logic behind this is MI has a point system, where as IL does not. My record as is, if it were to transfer to MI would have 2 + the 3 from last night. But to be suspended in MI you have to accumulate 12 points on your record, and my 5 won't hit that mark. So I was thinking that if I got the MI license before this ticket shows up at IL Sec of State, it wouldn't show up and cause a suspension. Again, this is just my idea, I'm definetly not an attorney, I'm just kind of desperate and looking for an out.

If I were to get a MI license after an IL suspension, the suspension would more than likely be 3 months, so I wouldn't have a problem not going home for 3 months and playing it safe, but I guess I can look into that too, but thanks for the heads up.

By the way, I go to Kettering University in Flint. I've never heard of your school, where is it?

 

[JaiBird]

Wow, that's a bit ridiculous. I don't know if I could get a MI license once mine is suspended in IL, I'm not sure how that all works. I think more what I'm asking than anything is do you think it would work if I went ahead and got my license in MI before the hearing, or directly after (just before I have to pay the ticket)? My logic behind this is MI has a point system, where as IL does not. My record as is, if it were to transfer to MI would have 2 + the 3 from last night. But to be suspended in MI you have to accumulate 12 points on your record, and my 5 won't hit that mark. So I was thinking that if I got the MI license before this ticket shows up at IL Sec of State, it wouldn't show up and cause a suspension. Again, this is just my idea, I'm definetly not an attorney, I'm just kind of desperate and looking for an out.

If I were to get a MI license after an IL suspension, the suspension would more than likely be 3 months, so I wouldn't have a problem not going home for 3 months and playing it safe, but I guess I can look into that too, but thanks for the heads up.

By the way, I go to Kettering University in Flint. I've never heard of your school, where is it?

First, ya can't beat the system that way. The citations were written on you IL. license right. That's were its goin to apply. You can change your license in, and be issues a Mi. But I would try going to court, and perhaps try for "traffic school" which will keep the points off your license, and the officer writting you just for 10 mph over should qualify you, if he would have wrote you for the 19 mph you wouldn't qualify for the reg. traffic, but would have to go to "Advanced Traffic" (8 hour class) if the Judge sent you. Try going to court first, then go from there, is what I'd do.

 

[Jiggly]

get a MI drivers license the state of MI will not transfer points from the other states, worst thing I ever did was get rid of my MI drivers license, as long as you just keep paying your fines in the other states and dont get any warrants no one who pulls your license will see an out of Michigan ticket

 

[Jiggly]

oh and do it before the suspension, do it today

 

[teamben158]

Another benefit of getting a MI license is that you might get instate rates for school because you have an address there. You have to check with your school, but here at SIU, it's 1 year of residency and you get instate. Had some friends from TN do that. They got an IL license and after there freshman year, they saved a boat load of money.

 

[Tittys04]

get a MI drivers license the state of MI will not transfer points from the other states, worst thing I ever did was get rid of my MI drivers license, as long as you just keep paying your fines in the other states and dont get any warrants no one who pulls your license will see an out of Michigan ticket

Ok, they don't transfer points in from other states (if I had a MI license) but do they transfer points out (bc I have an IL license)? So what I'm asking is will they send anything to IL sec of state saying that I got a ticket there, resulting in a suspension?

Also, about the in state rates for insurance, I do already get good student discounts if that's what you are referring to. But if not, did they have to change their insurance company because I have heard of some companies not insuring out of state, meaning by getting a MI license I may have to find a new insurance company here in MI, and then probably have to register my vehicles here also (which I would love to get around if I can).

 

[Jiggly]

yes, every state send the ticket to your licensing state, its just a matter if IL pays 2 cents to that or not

 

[Tittys04]

yes, every state send the ticket to your licensing state, its just a matter if IL pays 2 cents to that or not

Well are you saying that IL could recieve it and say "eh, who cares?" and not pay attention to it? So if I'm understanding you correctly you're just saying MI is one that says "eh, who cares?", right?

 

[Tittys04]

So does anyone know if it's possible to get a MI license with a suspended IL license?

 

[Jiggly]

Well are you saying that IL could recieve it and say "eh, who cares?" and not pay attention to it? So if I'm understanding you correctly you're just saying MI is one that says "eh, who cares?", right?

Its called non-extradicianary (sp)

They dont trust what the circumstances were behind the ticket because they have no national standardization of LEOs so they cant prove they were trained on the for example radar properly.

DUI may be a different story or fleeing etc etc.

But yes they will not put other points on your license and you need to get the MI before you get the IL suspended or you may just need to go through drivers ED and say youve never had a license before.

 

[Tittys04]

Alright, I had a suggestion by my room mates dad, I thought I'd post it and see what everyone thought. I got my court date which is May 30th. I will be out of town to go home for Memorial Day, I'm coming back that day but it's an 8 hour drive back so I won't make the court date. He suggested that I call the courthouse about a week prior to the date, say that I will be out of town on bsiness, which is only half-way a lie because I will actually be out of town. When I get a new court date which will probably the end of June, do the same thing, and just put the court date off until after my birthday which is Aug 31, because after august 31 I am 21 yrs old and the problem goes away. Then I don't even have to worry about whether or not they are lenient, if I get the ticket, oh well, I'll pay it. If not, great. Anyone ever tried anything like this? Any suggestions?

 

[Max Wedge]

I think your room mates Dad is an extrodinarily astute man, and he should be rewarded for his suggestion. In cash.

 

[Sindic]

Why would the problem go away when you turn 21? On the date of the offense, you were under 21. Go face the music.

 

[HighsideSV]

He suggested that I call the courthouse about a week prior to the date, say that I will be out of town on bsiness, which is only half-way a lie because I will actually be out of town. When I get a new court date which will probably the end of June, do the same thing, and just put the court date off until after my birthday which is Aug 31, because after august 31 I am 21 yrs old and the problem goes away.

Two questions. What happens if the court clerk's response to your "out of town" answere is something along the lines of "fuck you, show up or you get a bench warrent, have a nice day". Question #2 Why does it "go away" when you turn 21?

 

[Tittys04]

Because the law in IL is that under 21, you are not allowed to get 2 speeding tickets within any 24 month period. This would result in a suspension. After that date it goes to 3 tickets within any 12 month period results in suspension. If I were to push the court date past my 21st birthday, it would not show up on my record until after that date, cause no red flags to be raised by the state of IL. I highly doubt that they would look at the date of the ticket, but rather when it were to show on my record.

Red, to answer your first question, if that were to happen...well I'd be dicked, go in there and hope for mercy. However I will legitamately be out of town so I see no reason why they wouldn't reschedule. I have heard many stories about a person pushing court dates back to get out of losing there license here in MI, so I'm hoping it will work for me.

 

[medic001918]

Even if they do reschedule your court date, the date of the offense doesn't change. Te charges have already been brought against you. Pushing it back is going to do nothing more than to delay what's rightfully coming your way. Man up, get it over with and move on. Don't prolong the inevitable (sp?)
Shane

 

[Tittys04]

well I'm not quite sure that that really matters that much. I'm not even positive that IL will honor a MI ticket, not saying that they shouldn't, but it has been known to happen. However I don't want to take any chances. If I push it back and it works, great because I don't believe I deserve to lose my license (if I had a MI license this wouldn't even be an issue). If I push it back and it doesn't work, or I can't push it back that far, or even go to court and get the full fine and amount of points, oh well, I tried and it wasn't meant to be, but I have to try something. I mean seriously, who honestly believes that I should lose my license for 3 months because I've gotten a total of 2 tickets in 1 year? It would take 4 of these equivalent tickets (10+ in a construction zone) over a period of 12 months for MI drivers and most others to lose their license.