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With the way modern medicine is today, I kind of feel like today's doctor has it a bit easy. It just seems like anytime you have a problem you go see them and all they do is check your pulse, blood pressure, and listen to your breathing and then perscribe you some drugs. The drugs do all the work. The thing that gets me is if you were taught all the symptoms of a particular ailness eventually you'd be able to know exactly what to perscribe. Some of you may argue, "Well that's what they're trained to do-recognize the symptoms..." But these symptoms are not hard to spot. If you're coughing up crap, seem to have a bad sickness, they perscribe antibiotics. If you have asthma they give you an inhaler. If you're sad they give you Prozac. It just seems to me like they're just advanced, licensed, drug dealers. Of course I really don't know what else to expect from them. It's not like I want them to whip out a scalpel each time I see them and work magic, but sometimes I wonder how hard their job really is. You do of course have some specialist like surgeons and stuff and they definitely have the skills. But some of these regular doctors... What the hell are they getting paid so much for?
 

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Well, I sort of understand what you're saying, but try getting into medical school, then passing the boards.....no cake walk.
 

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You know what gets me about the drugs they prescribe.

All the freaken side effects.

Are you sad,take this.......Side effects may include cancer,liver damage,bleeding of the brain and so on.

Asprin is the only thing I take.
 

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if you are talking about a general practitioner, yeah, there is a reason why it seems like they aren't doing much. they are usually the doctors that did poorly on their boards and could not place in a residency. some do choose to go into a general practice, but that is rare. they really don't make that much money considering the education that they went through. compared to the hours that a specialist has, a general practitioner, the type of doctor you see in a minor med place, pretty much has a 9-5 job.
I am currently doing research and will be taking the MCAT soon so that I can hopefully enter med school. Right now it is scary some of the people that they let into med school, and I don't want to get into an argument on affirmative action, but they definitely are letting people in med school that can't cut it.
 

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depends on what doctor you see. as a full time nursing student i can tell you that the side you see isnt what the job consists of. go to an ER and watch someone crash and you'll know what i'm talking about.

yest private practice doctors do seem to get the rep that you gave them. you walk in, a nurse takes your vitals, the doctor walks in and hears your symptoms and has the nurse write the prescription
 

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I am currently doing research and will be taking the MCAT soon so that I can hopefully enter med school.
I just took it good luck buddy :twofinger

But seriously, consider one of the sickeningly overpriced review classes, the practice is very helpful.
 

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With the way modern medicine is today, I kind of feel like today's doctor has it a bit easy. It just seems like anytime you have a problem you go see them and all they do is check your pulse, blood pressure, and listen to your breathing and then perscribe you some drugs. The drugs do all the work. The thing that gets me is if you were taught all the symptoms of a particular ailness eventually you'd be able to know exactly what to perscribe. Some of you may argue, "Well that's what they're trained to do-recognize the symptoms..." But these symptoms are not hard to spot. If you're coughing up crap, seem to have a bad sickness, they perscribe antibiotics. If you have asthma they give you an inhaler. If you're sad they give you Prozac. It just seems to me like they're just advanced, licensed, drug dealers. Of course I really don't know what else to expect from them. It's not like I want them to whip out a scalpel each time I see them and work magic, but sometimes I wonder how hard their job really is. You do of course have some specialist like surgeons and stuff and they definitely have the skills. But some of these regular doctors... What the hell are they getting paid so much for?
Wow, you are really uneducated about medicine...Have you ever watched any type of surgery??...If not, that may explain your question...These guys have thousands of hours in training, because one little snip of the wrong vessell, and boom, death...

Almost every singe symptom you have is a symptom for numerous illnesses...A simple cough can be anything from asthma, to pneumonia, tuberculosis, or just the common cold, just to name a couple...

It may seem simple to you, but I challenge you to try it...Go to the local library and get a PDR...It'll be the book that's as thick as your waist...It's what all MD's use for reference...

Once you check it out, let us know if your opinion has changed...
 

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Doctors do a great job of taking your money. Having a good doctor that you trust is invaluable. I sure as heck don't trust many of them.
 

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What doctors do is assume a HUGE risk by being a doctor. You are putting your life in their hands and they must know what they are doing.
Docs are like CEO's. They seem to have an easy job (other than surgeons and stuff) and get paid big for it. But what they are paid so well for is taking the responsibility for your life. Not just in the sense of holding your life in their hands. But also monetarily.
Docs can go strait to jail for making a mistake. They can be sued into oblivion and booted from the profession fairly easily. A profession they dedicate a decade or so learning.
It's alot of responsibility and it's a giant risk to take.
 

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But if you think about it- Statistically, there has to be 'the worst doctor in the US'.

And one of us probably has an appointment with him tomorrow.
 

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But if you think about it- Statistically, there has to be 'the worst doctor in the US'.

And one of us probably has an appointment with him tomorrow.
Yeah, and half of them are below average even. lol

That was an attempt at a joke. I respect most doctors, but have run into a couple that I chose not to let treat me.
 

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Wow, you are really uneducated about medicine...Have you ever watched any type of surgery??...If not, that may explain your question...These guys have thousands of hours in training, because one little snip of the wrong vessell, and boom, death...

Almost every singe symptom you have is a symptom for numerous illnesses...A simple cough can be anything from asthma, to pneumonia, tuberculosis, or just the common cold, just to name a couple...

It may seem simple to you, but I challenge you to try it...Go to the local library and get a PDR...It'll be the book that's as thick as your waist...It's what all MD's use for reference...

Once you check it out, let us know if your opinion has changed...
L8 I don't think he is referring to surgeons... seems like he is referring to the General Practice Docs... that pretty much do just what he said... now surgeons of course are another story completely.... but I'd have to agree with him on the general practice doc....
 

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I have been an ICU RN for about 8 years. I have just about seen it all. I have even seen at times asking ME questions. No, not to see if I knew the answer, but to help them. I don't believe any one person has all the answers, so it does not bother me that they ask questions....
 

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L8 Braker said:
Wow, you are really uneducated about medicine...Have you ever watched any type of surgery??...If not, that may explain your question...These guys have thousands of hours in training, because one little snip of the wrong vessell, and boom, death...

Almost every singe symptom you have is a symptom for numerous illnesses...A simple cough can be anything from asthma, to pneumonia, tuberculosis, or just the common cold, just to name a couple...

It may seem simple to you, but I challenge you to try it...Go to the local library and get a PDR...It'll be the book that's as thick as your waist...It's what all MD's use for reference...

Once you check it out, let us know if your opinion has changed...
Wow, you really didn't read my post clearly. I stated surgeons definitely have the skills. A lot of skill. I"m referring to those doctors that you see when you don't feel right all they say is drink lots of water and get rest and write you up a perscription for antibiotics. I mean these guys aren't even trying.

Of course a cough could indicate multiple things. Of course medicine is complicated. You're reading my post as if I said medicine was easy. I'm not saying that at all. I'm questioning if some of these doctors today are really worth their paychecks cause they don't seem to do enough analyzing or enough work for the patient.
 

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...my opinion on doctors? -->Dr. :hshot <-- me there no differnt from the fucking lawyers. all abunch of educated money grubbin pricks out to take money from the poor and make people miserable...... I have been subjected to tortures that I dont want to get into here but believe me, they were pretty fucked up.... because of that I'm terrified of them, lost all my teeth due to that reason.... to end it all it's probably cut a easy 20 years off my life. There pretty much responsible for killing my Father too. Miss-diagnosed him saying he had a cold, when in acuality he had the begginings of thyroid cancer. If caught early its treatable. My Mom had it and she is still going at 80 years of age. Other sprcialists have told me yes your father very well have might made it if the they diagnosed it properly and acted on it... I HATE FUCKIN DOCTORS.... Been seeing too many of the dam quacks recently.... not a one has done a thing that has helped me. I'm getting so dam depressed I'm ready to end it all. :eek: <--- I'm about a half second from pulling the tr*****.... reason is below..
On top of that I have been trying to get assistance from our state so I can get back on my feet and get kicked in the ass... Ive applied 3 times now, yet they eagerly hand out loads of money to people who can't even speak english.... and never put a dime into the system, which I have donated 40% of every check I ever got to, now when I need it I get refused..... HOW FUCKED UP IS THAT????

I'll say this much, there are a few EXECELENT doctors, but there far and few between. My friends wife is one of the few, she saved my lifr without even seeing me. She heard her husbands description of how I looked and in an hour I felt about 100 times better than I had in 3 weeks of going to Kaiser Medical center every day for 2 weeks, and being handed penecillian in increasingly larger sizes until I had gotten so sick I couldn't even stand up, I couldnt eat, anything I swallowed came right back up. I really was in bad shape.
I had a extreme case of penicillian resistant strep throat and when my bike riding buddy came by and saw me he caled the wifey told her I loked like i was dying and she told him to go back home and in her office was some synthetic form of anti boitic, telling him how many to take initally and I aint shittin within 1 hour I felt so much better I felt like I could run a marathon...
 

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I think totays GP's have it pretty good. Granted they don't make the huge cash of some other specialties. It would be a good gig. I know a GP here in Minnesota that makes about $120,000/ year. Nice money but not $500,000 + like MOST of the orthopedic surgeons I work with.
 
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