Heavy FZ6 said:Everyone has their point of view. I'd say he was accurate and fair.
The reason you point out that the FZ6 is bad for beginners (clutch and throttle) is the very reason I don't suggest it to newbies.fraggle1 said:Heh, so much for staying anonymous. Yeah, I wrote that a while back for that newbie-specific site. Sorry to leave your handle out, Mike. I probably should also have referred to this site as the best FZ6 info source on the web. :cheers I definitely refer everyone here from that site when they ask me about the FZ6.
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LOL ..... I hate when that happens. Sometimes I even do the reverse when I take a quick stop. Come to a stop & put the kick stand down without puttin it in neutral.Binary Jay said:I haven't stalled it since save for the occasional forgetting to put the sidestand up
Ah! I thought I'd find you lurking here somewhere! LOLfraggle1 said:Heh, so much for staying anonymous. Yeah, I wrote that a while back for that newbie-specific site. Sorry to leave your handle out, Mike. I probably should also have referred to this site as the best FZ6 info source on the web. :cheers I definitely refer everyone here from that site when they ask me about the FZ6.
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I absolutely agree. It isn't the best "beginner's" bike. For a newbie, it does have a bit too much power and it does require a bit of finesse. Think about it. A newbie that has never ridden a bike before and let's say he/she never drove a stick before either, now has to figure out what to do with all of his/her appendages ie. left has has to work the clutch and the turn signals, right hand has to twist the throttle AND handle the front brakes, the left foot changes the gears and the right foot applies the rear brakes. So the hands are doing double time with chores and that same person has to learn how to balance the bike while it's at a standstill and while it's moving. That is a lot for a newbie to be taking all in the beginning stages of riding. Twist the throttle too much or grab the brakes too hard and they're in trouble b/c they may not have the experience to react. On a smaller, lighter bike it's much more forgiving. Some can learn quicker then others. I personally think that people that know how to drive stick in a car well can adapt easily b/c of the same concepts of shifting and braking compared to others that have driven autos.crx81 said:+1
His best quote IMHO: "Many people CAN start on this bike (and have), but very few SHOULD in my opinion. Regardless of the performance gap between the FZ6 and the supersports, it isn’t a 'good beginner bike.'"
Yeah, I think I meant to write "wet weight." Oops. :bitchslapWISPER said:Thats a very good and very complete right up Fraggle1, props. One thing though...I thought the dry weight on the fz6 was 426lb. Maby I was mistaken.
Edit: Yamaha's site lists the dry weight at 423lb's, for the 05' any way. Did the weight change between the two years or is Yamaha fudging the #'s??
biker6 said:Wow - Fraggle1, excellent job. :dblthumb You've really summed up my internal monologue in your review so I feel validated with the drive train lash comments as well as the short friction zone in the clutch. I know it was stated that a power commander helped with throttle smoothness however I’m like you, I don’t want to lose 5 mpg.
Does anyone else have any ideas regarding ways to fix the throttle on/off issue? Tweaking the idle speed? Tightening up the throttle cable?
And regarding the lash, any thoughts there? Tightening the chain?
I love riding hard in the twisties but that abrupt pulse that comes when you roll on the throttle freaks me out.