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post #16 of 84 (permalink) Old 07-20-2011, 02:29 AM
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So I've been trying really hard to save up the money for better protective gear including boots. I've been looking really hard at the Puma 1000s and I think I want to get those, I'm just not sure how practical they would be. Would ya'll say it'd be better for me to look at your standard sport touring boots since most of my riding is commuting, or would you guys say that a highly protective race boot is the best way to go?

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I have a hard time with exoskeleton "ski boots" like the Pumas. They are so so bulky that they actually push my foot off the peg by rubbing on the side panels/frame. This will vary a lot depending on you/bike/boot fit, but definitely try them before buying.

Usually the ski boots are pretty comfy once you get into them, though.

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Since I've received my Teknic Violator 1-piece, I have not gotten on a bike without full gear including my Teknic Chicane boots and Teknic Violator gauntlets. Even in 90+ degree weather. It is far easier to wipe off sweat than blood. Even though this thread was meant to point out the importance of proper riding boots, it is always an opportune moment to advocate ATGATT. Speaking of wiping off blood, check this out:
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Thanks for posting.

All boots are not created equal.

Threads like this are why my wife agreed that I needed to spend almost $4K on riding gear even before I had a bike to ride.

There is absolutely no substitute for high quality motorcycle riding gear.
Wow, you are indeed blessed with a wife such as yours. Tough to convince the life partner that you need to spend an additional 4k on gear on top of what the bike costs. But what almost all newbies fail to realize is that the initial bike cost is just the tip of the iceberg. Correct gear is absolutely essential. The more dangerous or riskier the activity, the more critical the role of proper and correct gear.
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Wow, you are indeed blessed with a wife such as yours. Tough to convince the life partner that you need to spend an additional 4k on gear on top of what the bike costs. But what almost all newbies fail to realize is that the initial bike cost is just the tip of the iceberg. Correct gear is absolutely essential. The more dangerous or riskier the activity, the more critical the role of proper and correct gear.
There is no need to dump $4000 bucks on gear. You can leather up head to to plus helmet boots and gloves for $1000 if you catch closeouts and sales.

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There is no need to dump $4000 bucks on gear. You can leather up head to to plus helmet boots and gloves for $1000 if you catch closeouts and sales.
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I have something close to 3 or 4k in gear but I have a one piece a zip together two piece a two piece zip together winter textile... Heated jacket, two sets of boots 3 pair of gloves random leather pants and a textile jacket.... A back protector and another couple of 100 or so dollar odds and ends.

If I were to price out my normal riding stuff.. 90 for the tecknic jacket 100 for the tecknic pants. Hth have full zip and both also have the partial 8" which is cool.
A* super techs for 175.... All of those retail at 300 or more. Boots had maybe 2 hrs of riding on them and the rest was brand new.

So 4k is really kind of excessive. Especially if you are on a budget.

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Just to clarify, I was not suggesting spending 4 k on gear. I was commenting on how fortunate jethead was in having a wife that has no problem spending that much in gear. As it is I've spent about 700 bucks for mine not counting the new Teknic Aquavent mesh jacket. And that's with an ok helmet which I am planning to replace very soon.

Bell Apex helmet- 90 bucks (dealer cost & soon to be replaced)
Teknic Violator 1-piece perf - 439.99 (dealer cost)
Teknic Chicane boots- 93.49 (dealer cost)
Teknic Violator gauntlets - 53.99 (dealer cost)
Total cost of essential gear - 677.47 (not including taxes)

Optional gear:
Teknic Chicane textile jacket - 95.00 (dealer cost)
Teknic Aquavent mesh jacket - 70.00 (dealer cost)
Teknic Chicane "shortie" gloves - 30.00 (dealer cost)
UA Heatgear compression long sleeve top - 37.00
UA Heatgear compression shorts (only because they didn't stock tights) - 37.00
Oakley sunglasses - 120.00
Total cost of optional gear - 389.00 (not including tax)

Total cost of all gear to date: 1066.47

Definitely shop for closeouts and sales. Ultimately, spend whatever your budget and your sense tells you to do.
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I'm not advocating that you need to spend $4K on gear either.

I just chose a bunch of gear all at once based on reputation and reviews and what more experienced people told me to get.

I imagine if you watch the sales and close out events or even the boards and racing forums you could get good stuff for closer to $1K.

I wanted all new stuff. And I wanted specific brands and models. I had to pay.

Think about the old addage, pay now or pay later, I got the best gear I could afford at the time. Just so you know I did not get the "best" gear available. There are leather suits that cost $4K alone.

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I wanted all new stuff. And I wanted specific brands and models. I had to pay.
I don't give a shit anymore. I've had $550 dollar jackets literally start falling apart in 2 years, but my "shitty" $200 new Joe Rocket Blaster 2.0 has been down twice, ridden in for pretty much 5 years straight (Hawaii and NM, LONG riding seasons) and I STILL wear it....I've had it for 8 years now. No problems with seams or zippers....Its rashed and a scarred and all of the pocket have holes in them, but it just keeps going.

Helmets are the only place I spend real money on gear anymore, and that is more of a comfort than safety thing.

Hell I think I'm only about 380 bucks deep into two one pieces, I have more in boots.

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I think it all comes down to personal choices, timely closeouts, etc. and not a pre-set amount to spend. However, I'm sure that we are all in agreement about the importance of proper gear and wearing it. 10 grand or 100 bucks in gear will do nothing for you if it just hangs in the closet.
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I think a but issue is also need/want and how it directly correlates to your specific time line I needed new boots for tracking but there was no pressing time line.... So I could wait for a good deal. My back protector I bad to buy right now... So I got a decent deal and it fis okay.... I will probably take my time and replace it. Same with my 1 piece... I might even go semi or full custom.

Wait for a deal and you will find them... If you insist on having it right away you will pay more than likely

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I think a but issue is also need/want and how it directly correlates to your specific time line I needed new boots for tracking but there was no pressing time line.... So I could wait for a good deal. My back protector I bad to buy right now... So I got a decent deal and it fis okay.... I will probably take my time and replace it. Same with my 1 piece... I might even go semi or full custom.

Wait for a deal and you will find them... If you insist on having it right away you will pay more than likely
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BTW, what kind of back protector did you get? I'm currently shopping for one right now.
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It is worth it if one person is saved from a whole HELL of a lot of pain...been there, done that, got Tzarized. There are a lot of guys on the forum who are ATGATT and act as an example to the young riders lucky enough to stumble across this forum. Unfortunately, a perusal of the streets and YouTube will show that the work is never ending...so many squids, so little time.

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Mods: We need a "smilie" for the Safety Tzar along the lines of this but with a whip.
Yeah...but The Tzar needs to be dressed in full gear!

Safety Tzar. You WILL wear PROPER Gear...and you will LIKE IT!
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Thanks for posting.

All boots are not created equal.

Threads like this are why my wife agreed that I needed to spend almost $4K on riding gear even before I had a bike to ride.

There is absolutely no substitute for high quality motorcycle riding gear.
holy shit, 4K? what did u buy?


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