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post #16 of 30 (permalink) Old 03-10-2012, 03:35 PM
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How? The Q2 is better than the power pure
the q2 is just a normal hypersport street tire like a bt-016 from what I've been told.
you're grouping it with basically hard race tires. the gpa from dunlop is more like the power pure.
and the 003rs crosses into race use category.



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I have done tons of research on tires, and this is why I have stayed with the bridgestone 'hypersport' line. Mostly well liked for street use with good stiffness, but not too stiff, good feedback, good grip, reasonable comfort, and now good wet traction with the silica compounds.

The professional reviews call the 016 a 'predictable' tire, no suprises, and consistent behavior from new to bald, this has been my experience so I am not really motivated to change. I have read a couple of things about the Q2 and Pures that kept me from trying those. For intermediate pace street riding, I believe the Bridgestone hypersport tire line works very well.

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the 003rs is way above the q2. it's more like dunlops's gpa's, metzeler race tec, pirelli super corsa, and michelin power pure's. it's a track tire you can use on the street basically.

they have a bt-16 pro out now. I just bought a set to try.
I still miss the bt-002rs. god that tire was the shit. I liked it more than the 003rs
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the q2 is just a normal hypersport street tire like a bt-016 from what I've been told.
you're grouping it with basically hard race tires. the gpa from dunlop is more like the power pure.
and the 003rs crosses into race use category.
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They put 003RS and Q2 in same group. Q2 in Street Willow best 003RS's lap time. Power Pure is a street tire and is marketed as Q2's direct competition.

Personally, I don't see how Power Pure is at the level of GPA, because people race with GPA but never with Power Pure. Or do you mean Power One?

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They put 003RS and Q2 in same group. Q2 in Street Willow best 003RS's lap time. Power Pure is a street tire and is marketed as Q2's direct competition.

Personally, I don't see how Power Pure is at the level of GPA, because people race with GPA but never with Power Pure. Or do you mean Power One?
oh I did mean power one 2ct.
dunlop used to have a lower level gpa a few years ago. I assumed they still did.
looks like the only gpa now is full on race tire.
dunlop and pirelli have some crazy ass ways they name/ categorize their tires.

I always seen the Q2 was your average hypersport street tire that replaced the 208's.

but every dunlop tire I've ever tried I hated.

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those things are old news dude.
michelin replaced those with the power pure 2ct years ago.
Hmmm, well im due for new tires this year so Ill have to give the power pures a try. Are they essentially the same tire?

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Hmmm, well im due for new tires this year so Ill have to give the power pures a try. Are they essentially the same tire?
better grip and lighter for less rotating mass.

On a race tire discussion the michelin rep told me last year the power one was going out of production and they had an even lighter tire to replace it with. I quite liked the one day i spent on the power ones, they let me get away with probably more then i deserve. I actually love the bridgestone tires too but the 250 slicks aren't exactly right for an SV, and in high speed knee down corners the 003RS didn't give me quite the confidence i was looking for.

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Hopefully the pures retain the relative longevity of the 2ct

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no idea but given that i'm pretty much certain theres a considerable price difference i'd just stay with the 2ct. I cant imagine needing more performance on the street then what those offer.

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I think this is 016 replacement.

I think their 003RS or 003 is more of a direct competition with the Q2 in terms of performance.
the 003 is slowly being discontinued. It's being replaced by the R10.

Dave Moss prefers the R10 over the 003s. Says it has more of an aggressive profile.
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As for the S20, they better be darn good, to outperform the Q2.

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My prediction is it will feel just like the BT-016 Pro, with decent feel, good stability, non-twitchy progressive turning, and poor treadlife (like most hypersports). I have kinda become a Bridgestone guy, having tried Dunlops and Metzlers; had the BT-016 OEM, 016 aftermarket, 016 Pro, now looking to try the S20's soon. Looks like they have done away with the (3LC-5Zone) Std 016 tread since the 016 Pro (2LC-3Zone) , and are continuing this trend with the S20.
What's the difference between the aftermarket BT016 and BT016 Pro? I can find any info on them...
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What's the difference between the aftermarket BT016 and BT016 Pro? I can find any info on them...
Same profile, tread pattern, carcass, etc. But, different rubber compound and only 3 zones (pro) instead of 5 zones (old 016). The new silica based compound is better in the rain and has a wider temperature range, where the old 016 had some fussiness in cold or wet, the 016 pro is more predictable across various conditions. Tread wear is supposedly longer; maybe, I couldn't really tell, pros wear pretty fast on the rear also, but front supposedly the much improved for life, that does seem to be true, looks like my front will last 4000-5000 miles.

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Hopefully the pures retain the relative longevity of the 2ct
they probably get about the same but offer more performance.
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...I actually love the bridgestone tires too but the 250 slicks aren't exactly right for an SV...
What about them was wrong? I tried them when I had my SV. They are really tall (which isn't a bad thing on an SV), but I had no problems with them that weren't created by me. There's a lot of fast guys out there on SV's who use the Bridgestone slicks.

I was curious what you meant. Is it the size? Because I thought that the slick fit the narrow SV rim about as well as any other race tire I've used. That's kinda one of my complaints with the SV. The rear wheel is too narrow and it's harder on tires (for me) than it should be.

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What about them was wrong? I tried them when I had my SV. They are really tall (which isn't a bad thing on an SV), but I had no problems with them that weren't created by me. There's a lot of fast guys out there on SV's who use the Bridgestone slicks.

I was curious what you meant. Is it the size? Because I thought that the slick fit the narrow SV rim about as well as any other race tire I've used. That's kinda one of my complaints with the SV. The rear wheel is too narrow and it's harder on tires (for me) than it should be.
Exactly what you're saying. More of a personal problem, i'm a bit chicken with the throttle mid corner and ham fisted on exit. When i went from the 003 RS which i got 6-7 TD's out of and then still sold with tons of life as a street tire, i put 3 on the slick and had shredded the rear tire to bits. Having similar problems with other tires but no where near as bad, and picking up the throttle sooner and earlier is helping. The compound was really soft on the stones too, a bit softer then i needed, which could be 100% responsible for the extra shredding.

That being said i found it way easier to get to the edge of the tire on both of the bridgestones then i do with the power ones.

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My tire pressure gauge was broke, and I wound up over-inflating them.

They didn't even last a weekend because of it. So, I had no valuable experience with them. Actually, the only Bridgestones I've owned in the past eight or nine years besides the slicks were the tires that came stock on my 636. I wasn't particularly fond of them.

But tires are like everything else, it's kind of whatever you feel comfortable with.

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