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Rizoma Rearsets Review and Installation

I received my Rizoma Rearsets last week that I ordered from PJFZ1 (you can check his website here). Let me first say that PJ is great to work with, it is obvious that he values customer service over anything else. PJ also does not take payment until he has the parts ready to ship to you.

My first impressions of these things when I pulled them out of the box was Gorgeous, truely a piece of a engineering art. See for yourself:

Photo of the front side of the Rear Sets:


Photo of the rear side of the Rear Sets:


Looking them over I was happy to see that the Rizoma's are FULLY adjustable. You can adjust the height of the pegs, and how far forward you want the pegs by removing the 2 allen screws in the center of the rearsets, and then aligning them back of with 2 of the 15 available adjustment holes. You can also adjust the angle bewteen the stationary peg and the peg on the rocker, by loosing the allen screw on top of the rocker, then sliding the rocker off and placing it back on at the angle you desire. I had to adjust my brake side, because it was pointing too far downward once I connected the brake pump. There is a also a 3 hole adjustment on the shifter rod. Even going with the default settings, that you can see in this photo of holding it up in front of the stock rearsets, there is quite a bit of difference in the position of the stock pegs and the Rizoma pegs, much further back. This is where I want me feet to be. I always find myself resting my feet behind the stock pegs, because this position is more comofortable to me, but this takes my feet off the shifter and the brakes. The Rizoma's appear to put my feet exactly where I want to be, without taking my feet of the brakes and shifter.



When I got done drooling over them, and put them down and pulled the instructions out of the box. At first I thought they seemed a little brief (Basically it's just a parts diagram.), but it seemed pretty straight forward and the rest should be intuitive.

Looking over all the parts, I quickly realized that I was shorted a part, the main linkage that goes between the shift lever and the rearset. I thought maybe I am supposed to use my existing rod, but the Rizoma's require a male-female rod, and the stock one is a male-male rod. I contacted PJ, and he didn't know why Rizoma shorted me, but he is going to rob one out of another set he has, to send me, and then get his replacement from Rizoma.

Oh well, I figured at least I can get the brake side installed, and it should only be a couple days before I get the part from PJ. Before I did anything, I noticed the back of my bike was in desperate need of a deep cleaning, therefore I began taking off the rear wheel, and start scrubbing away.

Once I was done cleaning, I then removed the stock rearsets from the bike. Removing the stock brake side rearsets I noticed that the stock ones use a big old spring to restract the brake lever. Looking at the back of the Rizoma it uses a twisted O-ring. My intial concern of this was braking or losing the O-Ring, but I was happy to see that Rizoma provided a spare. I do like the cleaner look of the O-ring over the spring, and after playing with the lever and watching it retract, I realized that the O-ring is not stressed at all, and when it is stretched out, it comes nowhere near it's yield point.

Installing the brake side I noticed one thing left out of the instructions, and that was how to hook up the brake light switch. No big deal, I'm sure I can figure it out. The old brake light switch attaches to a large bracket (as seen in the below photo) that mounts to the back of the stock rearset. Looking at the Rizoma's it was obvious this large bracket was not used and I need to remove it. I just unscrewed the two screws attaching the bracket to the back of the rearset, and then pushed the tabs in on the large plastic nut to push it out of it's mounting hole.

Here is the brake light switch before removing the bracket:

http://www.2north.net/forum/files/Ri...%20(Small).jpg

Here is the brake light switch with the bracket removed. This is all you need to attach it to the Rizoma's.

http://www.2north.net/forum/files/Ri...%20(Small).jpg (OOPS, wrong pic, I will fix this tonight)

Installing it on the Rizoma's was pretty simple. I just pushed the tabs of the plastic nut on the brake light switch through the C shaped bracket on the back of the Rizoma's. The spring for the brake light switch then attached through a small hole on the dog leg shaped lever. You will need to adjust the nut on the brake light switch up or down to get it to the desired length. Hit the brake a couple of times, and make sure the brake light comes on when the brake is pressed, and make sure it goes off when you release the brake, adjust as needed.



I was happy to see that the Rizoma's use the brake light switch, because as phxtravis pointed out in this post the Vater Moto rearsets do not have provisions to use the brake light switch. Also looking over phxtravis's post, the Vater Moto shift rod does not go through the chasis like the Rizoma's and the stock, instead it goes on the outside of the chasis. Definetly an advantage of the Rizoma's over the Vater Moto's in these two cases.

Connecting the brake like switch was the most time consuming part. It took about 30 minutes. Most of the time I was trying to figure out how it went, since the instructions didn't mention it. It then only took a couple more minutes from there to get the brake side rearset bolted up. I made a couple adjustment to how I thought I intially would want it, and I then stood back and was like WOW, those are really nice.

Here is a photo of the Brake Side installed (besides one little screw I forgot to put back in the guard after making one final adjustment on the brake light swtich):



You will notice the foot pegs are stationary and are not folding foot pegs like the stock ones. PJ feels that I will like the stationary ones better, but he does offer the folding foot pegs if I want to switch.

With only one side installed I jumped on the bike and checked my foot position. I was a VERY happy man, they are just where I want my feet. I will no longer be resting my feet behind the foot pegs to get my desired comfortable riding position. Now I can't wait to get the shift rod in from PJ, so that I can get the other side installed and take it for a test ride.

So far they are well worth the Money I paid for them. I will post up more, once I get the shifter side installed.


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I received the missing linkage rod from PJ on thursday, and I finally had time to install the clutch side on saturday. It bolted right up with no issues. I took her for a quick ride, and the first thing I noticed is that she shifted MUCH smoother. Rizoma uses bearings on all the linkage joints versus the bushings that were used on the stock ones. This seemed to make a world of difference. Someone mentioned that they were worried the extra linkage that Rizoma uses would make the shifting even more clunkier than the stock already was, but it is very much the contrary. It the pick below you can see how the linkage rod goes through the slots in the frame, instead of on the outside like the other brands.



The second thing I noticed was that my feet were in the comfortable riding position I was looking for. I no longer need to prop my feet up behind the pegs to acheive this. As you can see in the below photos my legs went from a 21 deg riding positon with the stock rear sets to a 30 deg riding position with the Rizoma rear sets. This is greater change than I thought I would acheive. I probably could acheive another degree since I still have more room for adjustment, but the 30 deg semmed right where I wanted to be.




The 3rd thing I noticed is that the non-folding pegs were a non issue. They are back far enough a little shorter that they do not hit my calves, nor do they when I am backing up. I am glad I went with PJ's recommendation of staying with the stationary ones.

On Sunday I went for a much longer ride. I noticed I had very little travel in my rear brake. When I got her back in the garage I noticed that I could barely push the plunger into the rear master cylinder. While installing the brake side rearset I must have let the plunger to far out. It was a simple fix, I opened up the bleeder on the rear caliper and then compressed the plunger, I then closed the bleeder with the plunger in the compressed position. Gave the brake a couple pumps, took her around the block a few times, and the rear brake was back to normal.

I am very happy with the Rizoma's. They are very high quality, and they have improved the smoothness of my shifting and my riding comfort. I look forward to procuring more Rizoma aftermarket parts for my FZ6.


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Damn, those are soooo nice.
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Here they are side by side with the stock ones.
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How much further back and higher are these than the originals (as you have them set in the picture)? Definitely interested in getting a set, but was hoping someone would do it before me so I could see how it looked/was positioned. Great Write-up....
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based on my settings, they are about 3 inches further back, and at the same height.


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That was well done.I have been courious about the rear sets.You showed me everything I have wanted to know.Good job.Thanks.
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That's some serious hardware right there. Looks nice!

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John,
That's an excellent write-up, Thank you for doing it!! I think I'll have to link it off of our website for customers to check out. (and thank you for the knd comments - we're riders helping riders, not a shop trying to empty your wallet).

I'll get that rod out to you tonight, and I'm hoping to have more of these on my next order in about 10 days. The ones I've received today are spoken for (and one id giving up a shift rod for you).


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That's an excellent write-up, Thank you for doing it!! I think I'll have to link it off of our website for customers to check out. (and thank you for the knd comments - we're riders helping riders, not a shop trying to empty your wallet).

I'll get that rod out to you tonight, and I'm hoping to have more of these on my next order in about 10 days. The ones I've received today are spoken for (and one id giving up a shift rod for you).
Hehehehehe. You said rod.

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How much do those rearsets run I couldn't find the price anywhere

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PJ has them at $446 on this website.

http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=24_42

PJ, there really is no directly link to the catalog, I kinda had to get there a backwards way. I'm assuming this may be because you are still getting the catalog on line.


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Very nice runthrough! I haven't given much thought to replacing my rearsets but perhaps I should give it a whirl.

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PJ has them at $446 on this website.

http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=24_42

PJ, there really is no directly link to the catalog, I kinda had to get there a backwards way. I'm assuming this may be because you are still getting the catalog on line.
Hey John - MotoMinx changed our homepage yesterday with a new link to it in the narrative right at the top. Refresh it and it should show up... We'll be getting rid of the pulldown at the top of the page in favor of buttons for the links, ride pictures and such, and make the catalog button much more obvious...

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John - you're ROD went out this morning!!
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