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Old 06-19-2009, 04:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was a passenger for a year with the BF. Now that he is gone I miss riding and decided to take the course, get my license and get my own bike. I'm vertically challenged at 5'2" and 105lbs. Got a couple bikes in mind. Looking for riding advice, bike advice and advice for when I walk into the dealership if anyone has any to give. Need all I can get!

Bikes I'm looking at: Ninja650R, Yamaha FZ6R, Suzuki GS500F, Suzuki GSX650F.

I would be doing mostly highway riding so I think a 250 would not be enough and I would out grow it quickly ... but that is just my uneducated thought.

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Old 06-19-2009, 11:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Suzuki GS500F. Easy to ride and learn on, more power than a 250, and looks decent. I suggest buying used, so if you drop it, you won't care so much.

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Old 06-20-2009, 03:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi and welcome to the forum
I'm vertically challenged also. I've found that sitting on the bikes is the best way to determine which is most comfortable for you. You can always lower a bike if you need to.
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Thanks Shamrock and Blue. I appreciate all the advice I can get! I'm pretty sure I will have to lower it no matter which bike I get. I understand that you can get the bike lowered or have the seat shaved. Is one better than the other?

I'll be looking for some fellow Phoenician's to ride with once I get my bike too! I'm sure there is a lot I can learn from experienced riders as well.

Thanks again! additional advice welcome from anyone else that reads this post!
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The GS500 would be good. But you might want to get the version with fairings if you are going to be doing a lot of highway riding. The wind can wear you out pretty quick on a naked bike.

Be sure to check out the Arizona forum here. There are some people there who could help you out with the local stuff.
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks acalliste! took your advice and posted on the AZ board as well.
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I'm vertically challenged at 5'2" and 105lbs. Got a couple bikes in mind. Looking for riding advice, bike advice and advice for when I walk into the dealership if anyone has any to give. Need all I can get!
I would be doing mostly highway riding so I think a 250 would not be enough and I would out grow it quickly ... but that is just my uneducated thought.
Thank you! Jules
Well, first off I'd like to say good luck in your quest. Riding is truly addicting and liberating, as I'm sure you'll soon find out.

My $0.02 or so, as a rider with nearly 35 years of experience on road (and another 5 off road):

1) Vertically challenged - Your height is not important, but your inseam length IS. You should be able to flatfoot on one site, I personally think it's critical to gaining confidence in slow speed maneuvers, especially on uneven and non-paved surfaces. Seat height of the any bikes you're considering, along with the seat width, will help determine how well you fit the bike.

2) As to you qualifying what I just put in boldface, I'm glad you did. There seems to be a large contingent of people out in the sport bike world who feel that way, (or have heard it so often, they think it's true) but the funny thing is, most of these people couldn't or haven't ridden my choice of 250, a Ninja 250, or else they would see the fallacy of that statement.

Now, I'm not petite li'l thing like you. I'm old, unfit, and quite overweight at this point in time. Yet, of all the bikes I've ridden over the past few decades, everything from 55cc mini Cafe Racers, to 1000cc superbikes, the mint condition '95 Ninja 250 I bought for my Nephew to learn on was among the most fun rides I've ever had the pleasure of strafing the local twisties on!
I'm probably a good 100lb over the target audience the manufacturer envisioned when creating these bikes, yet when I slabbed it up I-5 to deliver to him in Seattle, a distance of 160 miles, even with my weight, I had NO problem whatsoever cruising at 75-80 mph with a good bit of power left. The trick on those bikes is to ride it like an old 2-stroke, right on the power band, keeping it between 6,000 - 9,000 rpm.

The bikes you're looking at aren't necessarily unsuitable as beginner bikes; they're certainly a MUCH better choice than a 600cc super sport. But don't discount the 250 as something you'll be bored with. It's a very, very fun ride. The initial cost is considerably less, as is the cost for insurance, too. Don't forget to factor that in, also.

I wish you lots of luck and a lot of fun learning to ride.
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Thanks for the advice Quicklimegirl. My inseam is 30" so I was mainly looking for bikes that had a seat height in the 30"-31" range.

I did consider the 250 at first but most all the advice I got is that I would out grow it pretty quickly and that it would be tacked out at highway speeds.

I LOVED being a passenger... it was always ME begging to take the Blackbird out... so I know I will LOVE being a pilot even more

Thank you again!
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Hi Jules.

As a fellow (almost) Phoenician I feel obligated to chime in here and reinforce what QLG had to say on the topic. IMHO you really ought to take a good look at the better 250's. The new Ninja is superb. It's an almost perfectly scaled down 600 SS. With your lack of mass a good 250 will go plenty fast enough for you to go to sleep giggling for many a night.

Yes, you may outgrow it in a year. But bear in mind that your enjoyment of motorcycling over the long term will be hugely influenced by how you start out. Many's the young lady such as yourself I've seen start out on just a little too much bike and never really got comfortable. So they didn't ride much. So they didn't get comfortable. So..... you get the idea. The one's that started out on a 250 on the other hand, all seemed to be running for the garage every Saturday morning yelling "Yippee!" And when they graduated to 600 SS's are still running to the garage every Saturday morning yelling "Yippee!"

I believe Action Motor Sports up in Anthem will sell you pretty much any Kawasaki or Suzuki you want for a REAL good price right now.

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Hi akjitsu

Thanks ... putting the 250 back on my list to consider. I've had several people share the same advice.

I will also put Action Motor Sports on the dealership list!

When I say Phoenician I mean to include all the surrounding area
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When I say Phoenician I mean to include all the surrounding area
Shucks. Even us folks up here in Cave Creek?
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Shucks. Even us folks up here in Cave Creek?
LOL Yep .... Actually I'm not far from CC ... live in N. PHX

Not sure about those in Tucson though ................ JUST KIDDING Blue88 ;)
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Hey Jules! I'm a vertically challenged bum myself (5'4" and inseam of 28"). I found the Suzuki's have the lowest seats from what I've seen stock. I sold my 600 last year and went to a 250, and you know what? I haven't looked back. Mind you the 250 I now have I can also go offroad, but this thing has no trouble getting up to 100 mph. Not like I need to, just saying that the smaller bikes have enough snap to ride the highway at speed and still have enuf snort to pass. One thing that is really nice about the smaller bike is it is 5X more nimble...trust me, you'll need it out there when you have that 73 year old grey headed old coot who can barely see over the dashboard cut in front of you. Those new 250's are pretty damned sexy looking too. I know the allure of having a bit more power of the 600's is a nice benefit, but don't pass by those little 250's. With your size and weight, trust me...that little 250 is going to amaze and surprise you with what its capable of. Just sayin'...
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I'm 5'2" and 115lbs. Just bought an '09 Ninja 250R in April and LOVE it. It is so easy to maneuver and shifts real smoothly. I had it lowered 2 inches and it is a great height for me. Although it looks small online, you really need to see one in the dealership. The more comfortable I get, the more fun it is. Even though it has a smaller engine, there is still a lot more power in that thing than a cruiser.

The one down side: I have heard I'm supposed to keep it to 4,000RPM or under to break it in, which I find very difficult to do because I end up shifting every 6-8 miles and by 30MPH I'm already in 6th. As a beginner, it is very challenging to be focusing on shifting so closely along with everything going on around me and turn signals, etc...

Maybe see if someone you know has a Ninja 250R that would could borrow and take it on the highway to see how it feels.

Let us know what bike you end up getting!
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