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Old 07-26-2004, 01:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have just installed a hack that keeps track of your online time. Basically since i just installed it.. it starts now.. so no it doesnt add the time you have already spent. But it will keep track from now on..

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I wonder who spends the most time on the site
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Old 07-26-2004, 01:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have just installed a hack that keeps track of your online time. Basically since i just installed it.. it starts now.. so no it doesnt add the time you have already spent. But it will keep track from now on..

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I wonder who spends the most time on the site
Will be able to turn the display off?
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Old 07-26-2004, 01:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank god it can't catalog all the hours of my life I've wasted away in the damn Arcade! Where will we, the users, be able to view these stats? Can we? Or, are we subject to whenever you wish to post information?

Edit: Oh, wait...never mind. Just noticed what information was on your User Panel.

I'm curious how this determines time. If I'm logged into the forum, viewing a thread...and leave it up in a browser for 5 hours. When I eventually return and click something else, will it assume I've been actually AT the forum for 5 hours because of a time elapsed cookie? That would lead much error to be had. What are the technical specifics regarding how it determines active time spent when HTTP inherantly doesn't retain state/session data. There is no way of determining how long I've viewed a site's pages if some mathematical calculation to determine how often some cookie variable updated, which would need to change with each page impression.

How does this hack function?

Edit again: As an example, it took me several minutes to type this post, but I wasn't clicking on any links or actively browsing. Yet, my stats are still showing < 1 second, which isn't true. I'm going to suspect this hack will be highly inaccurate. Time to review cookies, I guess.
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Old 07-26-2004, 01:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That's a good question.
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WHile neat.....it's kinda annoying
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I leave the site open all day at work but only spend about 5 minutes an hour looking at the site. Will it give me 45 minutes a day or 9 hours?
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WHile neat.....it's kinda annoying
And, I think its "neatness" will subside and become even more annoying if it's going to be inaccurate, which I can't help but think it will be. The time spent typing messages will not be captured. If it compares the deltas between any session login and the next re-login, or the next time your cookies update when you revisit, it will be even more inaccurate. I'd be very curious the architecture behind this hack. It would be incredibly complex to account for all possible state variables one may exist in while using a multi-featured forum.

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I am sure there is a way to turn it off.. all I have to do is put a IF command in it.. I will look it up
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/me thinks it could be just removed just as easy also
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See...it still has you listed as under 1 sec and you've obviously been active in the last 10 minutes. Of course, maybe it doesn't update on the minute, dynamically. In fact, I'd hope it wouldn't. With thousands of users, that would be some significant impact to database access and overall response of the site. A malicious user could DoS the server quite easily through seudo-HTTP-bastardized half-opened connections, much as you would any stateful TCP connection. How often are the stats updated? On what even trigger? Give us details, man!

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i will look into it.. might just remove it.. im bored so i am fucking around with things today
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/me possibly clicks the delete button
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i will look into it.. might just remove it.. im bored so i am fucking around with things today
I think it would be a nifty feature if it was visable in each individual UserCP, not globally. And, of course, it would have to be accurate to a fairly certain degree.

By the way, I accidentally clicked "Ignore" on this post instead of "Quote", and I received a 404 error.
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Before you remove it, tell me where you obtained it so I can review it's calculation architecture. I'm damn curious.
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Before you remove it, tell me where you obtained it so I can review it's calculation architecture. I'm damn curious.
I found what i did wrong.. but doesnt seem to be updating yet.. going to dig further into it

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=60488
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