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09-27-2007, 12:44 AM
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Question about body position in your Seat
Where do u sit, on your seat?
Do you hug the tank with your balls/ do you sit in the middle. or kinda tarwards the rear of the seat? i was lookign at pics of people and was wondering about that
thanks
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09-27-2007, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by brent98rt
Where do u sit, on your seat?
Do you hug the tank with your balls/ do you sit in the middle. or kinda tarwards the rear of the seat? i was lookign at pics of people and was wondering about that
thanks
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Hmm...
I don't know that there's a simple answer to that. I would say it depends on you, your bike, your required lean angle, etc,. In the straight aways' I tend to sit with my 'posterior' towards the rear of the seat. Usually because I can flatten down over the tank. I also haven't locked myself around the tank making getting off of it for 'corner maneuvers' less involved.
This is a quick overview of my riding style and how I 'position' myself. Everyone is going to have little differences and I'm sure they will give their take on it too. Read some books and ask questions. If you have a track near by, take a 'advanced rider course'.
Good Luck,
'Dee'
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09-27-2007, 01:05 PM
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One of the first things that the SO did for me when we started talking about track riding was to buy me a copy of "Sport Riding Techniques" by Nick Ienatsch. In the book is suggests that you leave a little distance (an inch or so) between you and the tank.
Of course I have to agree with SD40T-2 in that it will depend on your fitment on the actual bike. The idea, as the book clearly states is that you do not want to have to reach so far that your arms are fully extended (makes you stiff....inputs to the handlebars will not be a smooth), but you don't want to be to close either because your posture and arm position again may lead to fatigue and poor steering inputs. The book is totally worth a read.
Also, if you are performance riding and you're smashed up against the tank, you may find it harder to shift your weight off either side of the bike. At the same time, if you're to far back, you can't use your outer leg to hold the side of the tank while you're leaned off.
Just some thoughts!
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09-27-2007, 02:25 PM
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One thing to add is that I constantly scan my environment and predicting what my posture will need to be. On the track, I somewhat know how I'll be in posture but on the road it's a matter of interpreting my environment....
When beginning to ride the track, I would treat it like the road and predict (and practice) what your posture needs to be. Once you learn the turns and get a feel for it you can start to let it come naturally.
When I took my upper level advanced rider course, they asked us why we thought riders drag their knees. I pipped up "As a lean angle reference?". Which was correct. I think it's the only time I guessed correctly on a subject involving M/C racing.  Haha....
I tend to drag my knee a little more than others given my angle since I'm still trying to figure out where the "sweet spot" is. It's coming to me and it just takes time....
Good luck,
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09-27-2007, 02:55 PM
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cool. thanks guys for the info.
i tend to set near the tank and hug the tank with my legs during breaking to
take weight off my arms. when i tuck down i go towards the rear a little to get down low.
I will be looking into getting that book here soon
thanks
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09-27-2007, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by brent98rt
cool. thanks guys for the info.
i tend to set near the tank and hug the tank with my legs during breaking to
take weight off my arms. when i tuck down i go towards the rear a little to get down low.
I will be looking into getting that book here soon
thanks
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I think you'll like the book. There are several others that riders suggest and I will probably get around to reading those as well. I enjoyed the fact that the book has pictures, practice exercises, and does a very clear job as explaining how, what, and why they make the suggestions that they do.
Good Luck!!!
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09-27-2007, 04:05 PM
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10-03-2007, 09:58 PM
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It's much more important how you carry your weight that where you end up on the seat. You mentioned hugging the tank with your legs when braking... if that's what allows you to support your weight with your legs, back, and abdomen, leaving your arms free and relaxed... that's where you want to be. leaned over, your position on the seat may change, as it may when accelerating on the straight. But no matter where you are, use your lower body and core to support yourself - not your arms.
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