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Old 06-18-2008, 01:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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At least we're down 60% to only 7 THP troopers per 11 miles, plus half a dozen "Blount" county deputies. Isn't it illegal to make traffic stops in unmarked vehicles?

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Honda Hoot sparks increased patrols on Dragon

Josh West
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June 16, 2008


Sportbikes boycott Dragon as lawless cops increase crashes

With the Honda Hoot rolling into East Tennessee, the Blount County Sheriff's Office will be keeping a close eye on the infamous "Dragon."

The route along Highway 129 sees numerous motorcycle accidents each year, and sheriff's deputies are trying to keep riders as safe as possible.

Blount County Sheriff's Office Community Outreach Director Jarrod Millsaps knows the Dragon well. He travels the treacherous stretch of highway a few times each month, trying to stop motorcycle riders from taking dangerous risks on the roadway's serpentine switchbacks.

"The speed limit is 30 miles per hour until you get to the North Carolina line," Millsaps said. "It's also double yellow all the way into North Carolina, which means it's a no-passing zone."


Lawless sportbikers race on the Dragon

But many riders don't obey those rules. We saw one in action Wednesday afternoon. The driver traveled closely behind Millsaps' unmarked vehicle until oncoming traffic cleared, then sped around Millsaps, nearly clipping an oncoming motorcycle.

After being pulled over, the driver said he got wrapped up in the adrenaline rush of the ride and made a risky mistake.

"It could've been a major accident," Millsaps said.

Sgt. Randy Ailey sees similar incidents all the time.


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"The major factor is the speed," Ailey said. "They come up here and a lot of them think it's their personal race track. One told me this morning, 'If you're going to play the game, you'd better be prepared to pay the price,' and he said he was."

Sheriff's Deputies patrol the Dragon 7 days a week and stop between 10 and 15 drivers each day. With four accidents on Monday alone and more riders on the way this week, Millsaps is advising everyone to think twice before taking risks.

"As long as people come up here and obey the speed limits and obey the laws that are here, then they're going to have a great time and enjoy themselves," Millsaps said.

The Governor's Highway Safety Office recently approved a $120,000 tax increase grant to pay for patrols on the Dragon.


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"Personal liberty -- or the right to enjoyment of life and liberty -- is one of the fundamental or natural rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from nor dependent on the U.S. Constitution... It is one of the most sacred and valuable rights as sacred as the right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
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"Personal liberty largely consists of the Right of locomotion -- to go where and when one pleases -- only so far restrained as the Rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens. The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horse drawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but the common Right which he has under his Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Under this Constitutional guarantee one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's Rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct."
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"travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's Rights"
—II Am.Jur. (1st) Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p.1135

It means follow the laws and you wont get shit on!
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Deputy was also illegally driving 75 mph in a 45 zone without emergency lights and siren as required by law

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"travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's Rights"
—II Am.Jur. (1st) Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p.1135

It means follow the laws and you wont get shit on!
I'm just standing up for that Buell rider who passed the cop. The cop was driving extremely slowly (entrapment), illegally holding up traffic, which is a violation of TN Code. Passing is not unsafe on the Dragon, unless it's done on blind curves, or riders don't know how to countersteer. The problem is slow drivers who refuse to pull over in the dozens of parking areas, causing frustration for riders.

Driving safely without crashing is never a crime (no victim). Laws that conflict with the US Constitution are null and void (Marbury v Madison).

The Law already requires slower drivers to pull over to let faster drivers pass on the Dragon, without having to cross the centerline, but many drivers are idiots who illegally drive slow and cause crashes.

Video scar story: Harley rider passes slow RV that refused to pull over on the Dragon
Video scar story: R1 rider passes slow truck on the Dragon

Eliminating speed limits makes all drivers pay more attention and act more responsibly. Even USDOT and Ralph Nader admit that speeding is SIX TIMES SAFER than driving a posted speed limit. SPEEDING SAVES LIVES!


Speed limit on the Dragon was illegally reduced to 30 mph without a required Traffic Engineering Survey of the 85th-Percentile Speed of average traffic.

The speed limit used to be a reasonable 55 mph on that rural US highway. Now cops allege the speed limit is 20 mph in the 318 curves on the Dragon, with 18 cops and 150 tickets per 11 miles.

Commercial trucks on US129 have virtual immunity when driving in the wrong lane in every curve, hitting cars and decapitating riders, and rolling over at 5 mph.


Another $100,000 crash on the Dragon, blamed on a biker of course.

Truck crashes are VERY profitable for TDOT contractors and towtruckers, so no ban for trucks on the Dragon. Commercials trucks are already banned on US441 in the Smoky Mountains National Park, and Foothills Parkway which hits the Dragon.

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The dragon was awesome til now its B.S.
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The dragon was awesome til now its B.S.
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"For decades, speed was the subject of the most widespread slogans drummed into the public. 'Speed kills' and 'slow down and live' are familiar ones peddled by the National Safety Council. The findings showed a more complex picture of the role of speed than had ever been assumed before. Accident involvement rates are at a minimum at speeds between fifty and seventy five miles per hour. Although obviously the severity of accidents is greater at higher speeds, the study revealed that considering accident frequency rates and severity, the number of injuries per vehicle miles traveled is at its minimum [up to six times lower]. The law embodies an invincible rationale: 'He had an accident; therefore he violated the law.' No distinction is made between responsibility for the accident and responsibility for the injury due to unsafe vehicle design or construction. Manslaughter charges are filed routinely against drivers; there is yet to be recorded any similar charges against the manufacturers for vehicle defects. A typical police traffic accident report has a list of 'contributing circumstances' which the officer is to check off: 'Speed too fast; failed to yield right of way; drove left of center; improper overtaking; passed stop sign; ran traffic signal; improper lights; had been drinking; and other improper driving.' Thus the driver is heir to all the dangers created by the automobile designers, not only in terms of bodily injury but also in terms of legal exposure. The result of this drastic imbalance in the law is the very poor quality of accident investigation in this country. Consequently, enforcement of the law brings no pressure on the car makers to increase the safety of their vehicles."
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Germany, Peru and Venezuela have no speed limit on their major highways. Australia and Montana USA previously had no speed limit. Bolivia citizens lynch traffic police until they are dead. Gas is Venezuela is 10-cents a gallon. Gas in Mexico is 45-cents/gal with half of "their" oil exported from USA. Most Alaskan oil was given to British Petroleum for export to Communist China, Japan and Mexico. Amerika is no longer the land of the free but home of the slave. Or not.


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Funny how a guy in a Nazi helmet loves the Police State.


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Funny how a guy in a Nazi helmet loves the Police State.

Youre so clever! You figured me out. Yes, My avatar is of me riding my cruiser wearing my nazi helmet. You caught me.
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Youre so clever! You figured me out. Yes, My avatar is of me riding my cruiser wearing my nazi helmet. You caught me.
Oh.. I thought that was Jack Black..
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Oh.. I thought that was Jack Black..
Does Jack Black know you've stolen his identity?

The point being, you chose a Nazi helmet for your avatar.

Just like US soldiers and cops now wear Nazi helmets.

Or do you think Nazis and skulls are funny?


What's wrong with this picture?

And why do US cops only buy German Glocks and MP5s?

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I think your on the wrong forum dude. Many of us respect the police here.

I think we have heard enough of your propaganda.
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+1^^^ and also just because a helmet is shaped like an old nazi helmet doesnt make it a Nazi helmet... unless it was used by a nazi back in the 1930s-1940s... did you happen to ever think that the reason swat helmets and helmets similar where shaped similar due to their protection they offer the wearer... but you wouldnt consider something like that because your the type of person who doesnt give a fuck about the safety of the police and the people protecting our country... oh and ps our current Armed forces helmets are shaped similar... so does that make them nazis?
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