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Old 02-07-2006, 10:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Have you ever seen the "limited or no connectivity" message that sometimes pops up? I have seen it a time or two. Most of the time, I just click on "Repair" and its over. Other times, that the repair false to work I can disable the NIC and re-enable it. So, most of the time it’s a 2 minute inconvenience. Until now....My girlfriend’s mother just gave her a 7 m/o Toshiba. The guy whom she got it from never used it. Literally. The PC is really nice. It worked very well on my wireless router. Until Sunday night.

I was in the computer room doing some homework on my IBM laptop and Jaime’s bro came in and said that he had a vid from Bradington that he wanted to show me. Here is where every thing went nuts....

I closed the lid on my laptop. Causing it to go into standby mode. I log in to the desktop (hard wired) and there is no internet/network connection. I play with the NIC/network settings and nothing. I Reboot, nothing. I open my IBM, no network connection (wireless) I do the same as I did on the desktop. Still nothing. I check the DSL modem, its working fine. I look at the bran spanking new Net gear super G router, all the lights are on like they should. So, just for ha ha's I unplug the router for about 10 sec's and just like magic both PC's are working. Then I go and check on Jaime's laptop and im getting the 'limited or no connectivity" I have done every thing I can think of to get this thing to work...Like:

1. Clicking on the repair button
2. Disabling the wireless card and enabling it again
3. Turning off the card and turning it back on
4. Deleting the wireless profile from the list and then adding it
5. Downloading a fix for XP SP2 issues for said message
6. Turning off all firewalls.
7. Setting up a WEP key
8. Turning off and on the DHCP in the router
9. Setting the IP range in the router so there are no conflicts
10. Doing all this with an angry wife saying "If I’m not happy, you’re not happy!"


I do not want to be beaten by something that I have fixed before. Why is this kicking mybutt??? What am I missing?
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Old 02-07-2006, 10:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think what's happening is that you're most likely on a dynamic IP (most highspeed suppliers assign this to you). And sometimes, more often than not, when you go idle, it's at this time that you're automatically assigned a new one.

When this happens, it usually takes a bit on your router to recognize the newly assigned IP before your connection is established - all the while your modem will show that everything is A-Okay.

That's why a reboot of the router/computer fixes the problem because it immediately recognizes the newly assigned IP.

So, when this happens, you can either wait it out or - turn off your computer along with the modem/routers, wait 10 seconds then turn everything back on.

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^^^^What he said

I had a similar problem yesterday trying to set my network up for my wireless laptops to share the printer to my desktop. My problem was my firewalls. I shut them down then it worked fine then opened them back up and they automatiaclly accepted the network then.
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I'll diffenitly give that a try. I think I may have left out the fact that the desktop and the IBM can get on line no problem.
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just reboot the router and DSL modem... no need to turn off your machine.
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doing the rapair thing is basically the same as rebooting, as far as the network card is concerned. I do it all from the command prompt, because it gives you more information.

And i dont want to hear you complain about network problems. Nobody has had more of a headache with this than me. AND i lived with two computer scientists and a computer/electrical engineer last year. STILL had problems up the ass. Sometimes certain hardware just has issues with other hardware. Cheap network cards, especially wireless ones (which the toshiba probably has) can fuck up the cheap little home routers. It just causes them to jam, and they need to be reset. We then switched to a router that was a normal computer with two network cards and set it up so the modem wasn't allowed to do anything, and that solved almost all of the issues.

But we all have compaq laptops that are identical (part of our school's tuition, you get a laptop and "tech support" for it) and the wireless cars are stuck on the back of the screen. They are shitty USB ones that clip on the outside... (WTF?!?) and they hate all routers....

SIGH.... i hate networks....
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It's an issue with the router and DHCP , a reset (or two, ugh... I hate Netgears..) should fix it. You may want to check out Netgear's website for a firmware upgrade, those will help out ALOT. Chances are you'll run across the issue again.
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Limited or no connectivity can be alot of things.

1) Wrong WEP/WPA password
2) Internet is down, Wireless stays active.
3) Your laptop may have a wireless switch to turn on/off. some laptops you can remain connected, with the switch off. and get the message no connectivity.

Find out whats causing it, router, ISP, etc. Assuming all of your computers lose connection, not just the wireless. It most likely is your router.
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Asssign static IPs to every machine and your probs will vanish. Forget about the stupid repair crap. Once I went to static IPs all the BS went with it. Havent had a problem for years now. Nt servers uptime os over 99% at this time, the 1% was due to a power outage.
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