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Old 10-16-2012, 04:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm about to mount 190/55's and 170/20's of the Dunlap Q2 persuasion on my Tuono and have no clue what pressures to run.

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30 psi, good starting point at least

Dunlop recommends you use your owner's manual settings


Wow, a 170/20 - a 20 series? that's some serious homey rubber there!
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For street? 35 front & rear for better tire life.
For track? 30ish for better grip.
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I'd suggest 34 in the front and 38 in the rear for cold pressures on the street for normal everyday riding--if you are talking late fall or early spring or riding on the track then lower pressures....30/30 may be a good starting point in those conditions?
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i have 40-50 psi in mine.
no higher than 50
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i have 40-50 psi in mine.
no higher than 50
Hm... Interesting. That's awfully far outside of what's considered "normal range". Few people run more than 40psi unless it's a little tiny tire on an old vintage bike.

Is there a specific reason you run it so high? More than 40psi and you're gaining very little from the reduced size of the traction patch.

Have you tried running 35-40? You'd likely get qutie a bit more traction without much of a reduction in tire life.
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Cold pressure on the street.

Front (F): between 34-36

Rear (R): between 40-42

I was running 31F & 31R on the track with sport tires (not track tires).

Heavier Sport Touring bikes would run 42F & 42R
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If you look at the stamped plate on the steering head where the VIN is, it says 41 psi rear, and 36 or 34 psi front, that's what Aprilia recommends and is what I run most of the the on the street.

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Depends on the tire compound/structure, the weight of the bike+rider, and its intended usage.

Manufacturer recommendations take into account weight and OEM tire compound/structure. (This is why the recommended pressure for my Harley changed significantly in the next model year when the OEM tire manufacturer changed).

What you're basically looking for is a specific level of grip (either maximum grip, or for a balance of grip and low wear). A heavier bike and/or rider means more tire deformation, which means it heats up more, which means you need to increase pressure to compensate. The opposite is true for a lighter bike/rider.

A softer tire compound means that a higher pressure is needed to hit the same ratio of grip and tread life as you would get with a tire having a harder compound. Conversely, a harder tire should be run at a lower pressure so that it heats up sufficiently.

OEM-wise, I've seen recommendations from 30 PSIG cold through 42 PSIG cold. The 42 is on my ZX-14R, which is exactly what I run at. This is high for a sportbike probably because the tire is a softer compound, and especially because the bike is over 100 lbs. heaver than most other sportbikes (as are its typical riders ).

Cruisers tend to be rear-heavy and more likely to carry passengers, so 36-41 PSIG cold in the rear is common. This is lower than the ZX, despite being heavier, probably because they also tend to run harder rubber, which needs to heat up more for proper grip.

As mentioned by someone else, for sportbikes and racing you'll typically see pressures around 30 PSIG versus 35+ PSIG for regular street use--these are good starting points. If you know the weight at each tire's contact patch, you can calculate from there what the front should be versus the rear. Adding a passenger to the bike means that you should add air to the rear, often as much as 5 PSIG.

For street use, a good rule of thumb is to set the cold pressure to whatever level results in a 4 PSI increase when hot. Or, in other words, a 45 degree fahrenheit temperature increase. You should be able to hit this mark within 10 miles of freeway riding.

Also remember that OEM front recommendation also tends to take into account the rim hardness and therefore susceptibility to pothole deformation. A higher PSI here can protect your rim.

"Cold" inflation pressure means the pressure in the morning (at the lowest temperature for the day) before the sun hits the tire and heats it up.

Trivia: 29.4 PSIG is literally three tires' worth of air (at standard atmospheric) stuffed into a single tire. 44.1 PSIG is four tires' worth of air. See: Ideal Gas Law.

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If you look at the stamped plate on the steering head where the VIN is, it says 41 psi rear, and 36 or 34 psi front, that's what Aprilia recommends and is what I run most of the the on the street.

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I suggest to use 30psi front and 40 psi rear also try to fill your tire with nitro.
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