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Old 09-13-2007, 12:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Not sure if any of you heard this but the Hawaii football team does this dance called the "Haka" before the game to get themselves pumped up. THe "Haka" has some deep roots and some dispute over where it initially orignated from.

Anyways, the WAC Comissioner told them they were not allowed to do this anymore because it's "intimdating" for the other team.

My question is, how is this different then the teams coming out, hooting, hollering and carrying on when they come out on the field. Wouldn't that be considered intimdation?

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Hawaii coach June Jones on Monday said his team would continue performing a pregame Maori war dance called a "haka,'' despite being penalized for it Saturday at Louisiana Tech, where the Warriors escaped with a 45-44 overtime win.

The Warriors performed the emotional chant away from the field in front of their own fans, but were assessed a 15-yard, unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. That forced Hawaii to kick from its 15, giving the Bulldogs possession near midfield and setting up Louisiana Tech's first touchdown.

"It's not going to prevent us from doing the haka in the future,'' Jones said.

Hawaii, which slipped four spots to No. 24 this week, was penalized because Louisiana Tech was still on the field. But Jones expressed frustration because his team was so far away, on top of a hill near the locker room.

"We were 75 yards removed from the field, doing what we do - something that's special to Hawaii and special to our fans,'' he said. "It was just an unfortunate situation I thought.''

First-year Bulldogs coach Derek Dooley said his team wasn't affected by Hawaii's haka.

"It's something that's probably a tradition for Hawaii, and they don't mean it as disrespect,'' he said Monday. "But at the same time, it's important to be sensitive to the other team and how they view it. It's like any religious or cultural event you may have.

"When you go to Japan, what's a natural custom in the United States may be offensive to the Japanese. I think there certainly should be some sensitivity to that.''

Hawaii and the rest of the Western Athletic Conference schools were reminded before the season about the broad WAC sportsmanship policy that prohibits taunting or obscene gestures considered threatening or intimidating to an opposing team.

On Aug. 27, WAC Commissioner Karl Benson sent an e-mail to conference schools, discussing the policy on choreographed routines, such as dances or chants either before or after a game.

"If they are done in a way that's directed toward the opposing team in a taunting manner - or if done to 'incite' the opposition's fans - it does violate the policy and will be subject to penalties,'' the e-mail said. "Should your institution have a team that performs some type of routine either before or after a game-match, it must be done while the opposing team is off the field or court and in their respective locker rooms.''

The e-mail also urged visiting teams to, "not perform any type of routine whatsoever on the field-court of the home team.''

In an interview Monday, Benson said his intent was not to single out the University of Hawaii or the haka but to remind schools of the policy.

"I respect the cultural relevance of it. I think it represents the Polynesian culture and I respect that,'' he said.

But he wants to make certain the haka doesn't offend opposing teams or fans like it did last year. A conference team called Benson to tell him that Hawaii's dance, which includes a slashing motion across the throat, was directed at them. The referee at the game at Aloha Stadium also indicated to Benson that he was not comfortable with the performance.

Benson then advised Hawaii not to perform the haka until an opposing team is in the locker room, and the Warriors complied. That is, until Saturday.

He also spoke with Jones on Monday and said, "I believe we're on the same page.''

"I conveyed to him that I was not in any shape or form trying to eliminate it,'' Benson said. "But rather than risk any chance of future penalty or conflict, why not do it when the other team is in their locker room? I'm anticipating that will be the case in the future.''
Sounds like some folks need to clean the sand out of their clit and grow a pair.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That doesn't intimadate me. That would give me a good laugh before the game. They should think about stopping the near brawl that happens before every Florida St. and Miami game. There is a high school team close by here (Trinity HS) that does the same thing.
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I think it would be motivation for the home team. I'm not a UH fan by any means but watching that definitly pumps you up!
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Have you ever had sand in your clit before????

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No, i can't say that i have.

Sorry, something we say at work alot, no females in there
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Yeah, the organizers should intervene in college sports and prevent these guys from doing their thing (whatever the origin of the dance)...and while they're at it just make college sports the same as the little kids' sports where EVERYBODY IS A WINNER. You got 47th place, Johnny, way to go! Here's your trophy!!!!!
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Bunch of pussies - anyone who's watched The All Blacks (NZ Rugby team) would see the Haka before every game...
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. There is a high school team close by here (Trinity HS) that does the same thing.
I saw something on the news about them, may have been last yr ?


Fox 4 news out of Dallas I believe carried it?
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I agree with the commissioner, they should be sensitive to the other team they're about to beat the shit out of.

Actually, it's offensive to do anything against the other team. We should go to two-hand-touch.
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I think it's awesome that they do that and completely lame that they have to stop. What's the difference between getting in a huddle and yelling and screaming to get pumped up?
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The pussification of college football? Oh, say it ain't so!

If a dance or chant intimidates the other team, then that other team is either the worst bunch of excuse for football players...or they're a pop warner team.
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that would diffently pump some teams up. even if they are not doing it. but thats just me.
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What horseshit-- it's a traditional dance. I would say don't direct the slashing of the throats at anyone specifically, but they shouldn't ban the dance outright. If they did, it would be penalizing HU and tarnishing their traditions because other schools aren't too caring about their own historical background or a sense of their own community. If they ban the dance, they shouldn't stop there. They should also ban my school, MTSU, from being the Blue Raiders becuse some people are color blind, which might insult them, Syracuse shouldn't be the Orangemen because that's a horrible mascot name, and Idaho shouldn't be the Vandals because that might inspire vandalism by their fans, etc.
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Yeah, the organizers should intervene in college sports and prevent these guys from doing their thing (whatever the origin of the dance)...and while they're at it just make college sports the same as the little kids' sports where EVERYBODY IS A WINNER. You got 47th place, Johnny, way to go! Here's your trophy!!!!!

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