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Old 09-09-2007, 03:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What are your thoughts? Fights were pretty bad ass. Does anyone else agree with me Bisbing didn't deserve the decision at all! I mean I was going for him but Matt Hamill completely won that IMO. I think the reason that they gave him the win is because England would have started a riot OR it would cause problems with the Ultimate Fighter series! Rampage definitely kicked ass I would hate to get hit by either one of those guys!
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Fuck UFC. Not watching anymore until they either reverse the decision, fire the incompetant judges, or both.
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I don't watch UFC anymore...I also got fed up with the judges. Herb Dean is one of the most idiotic people I have ever seen, and same with that asian dude, but John McCarthy is usually pretty good at calling fights at the right time.

As far as Bisping getting a decision win, well...I don't think he is much of a fighter. The other guy had a bigger heart and wanted to win much more and I think he probably could have won.
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The other guy had a bigger heart and wanted to win much more and I think he probably could have won.
He DID win; Based on a mathematical score which consisted of two judges scoring 29-28 Bisping, and the third and only competant judge scoring 30-27 Hamill.
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And you know what? I take back what I said. Firing the judges won't mean shit to me. Why? Because if the judges' overall score was 85 points for Bisping and 86 for Hamil, WHO THE FUCK DECIDED TO OVERRULE THEM? 2 Judges were obviously compliant in this setup, but someone more influential than that gave the final word.
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Cobra, do you even watch sports??

It's not a conspiracy, as much as you want it to be.

Bisping won because a majority of the judges determined that he won. They don't count up all the points from all of the judges and then hand out a win based on total points.

If they did that, and one judge wanted one fighter to win, he could just say "Well, I think I'm gonna score that round 10-1 in favor of the guy I want to win...then round two I'll score 9-2, then in round three I'll make it 10-1 again."

If that happened, and the other judges were judging the fight fairly, as 10-9/10-8 and such, then there's no way that their scores could overcome the lopsided scores of the "bad" judge.

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What's all this scoring and judging bullshit? Fighting to the death is the only way to be sure.

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Cobra, do you even watch sports??

It's not a conspiracy, as much as you want it to be.

Bisping won because a majority of the judges determined that he won. They don't count up all the points from all of the judges and then hand out a win based on total points.

If they did that, and one judge wanted one fighter to win, he could just say "Well, I think I'm gonna score that round 10-1 in favor of the guy I want to win...then round two I'll score 9-2, then in round three I'll make it 10-1 again."

If that happened, and the other judges were judging the fight fairly, as 10-9/10-8 and such, then there's no way that their scores could overcome the lopsided scores of the "bad" judge.

Learn how the sport works before you freak out.
Maybe not a conspiracy in terms of my specific angry assumption but quite possibly still a conspiracy.
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But then again now that I think about it I think I've come to my senses. We all know people don't scheme amongst themselves about ways to make money and advance their own personal interests at the expense of others. Well, maybe in China or Rawanda but definitely not in America, so I guess you're right.

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I missed it. Gotta look for it on YouTube I guess. Nothing better then UFC!
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Does anyone else agree with me Bisbing didn't deserve the decision at all!
According to this quote Bisping won....not Hammel. I didn't watch it like I said, I don't watch UFC anymore. I was only going by what this guy said. I did watch Ulimate Fighter and Hammel had a bigger heart to win every match than Bisping who just walked around and talked shit the entire competition.
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You know I thought the Bisping/Hamill fight could have gone either way but I did think Hamill won. Judging by the expression on Bisping's face as time ran out I'm pretty sure he lost too.

And I can't believe someone hasn't brought it up yet. What the Hell is going on with Cro-Cop!?!?!?!?! Jesus, he comes into UFC looking like a God and so far he's not even looking like a decent heavyweight anymore.
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2-3 groin shots take a lot out of ya. But even before the groin shots Cro Cop looked to timid (except the first round). Why BJM didn't take a point away from Kongo is beyond me. Also Cro Cop broke a rib in the 1st round.
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2-3 groin shots take a lot out of ya. But even before the groin shots Cro Cop looked to timid (except the first round). Why BJM didn't take a point away from Kongo is beyond me. Also Cro Cop broke a rib in the 1st round.
Yeah, I was ticked off that all Kongo got for the low-blows was a warning.

I had no idea Cro-Cop broke a rib. That would definitely explain why he wasn't attacking in the last two rounds.
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I agree, there is no fucking way that Bisping won that fight. Hamil got winded, obviously not as conditioned as Bisping, but as far as win? Not a chance.

I kinda figured in the begining that if it went to the cards that the Brit would take it. Plus, the UFC is trying to get a foot-hold in England.

And Krokov...I wasn't aware that he broke his rib. I was very disspointed in his fight. Basically handed the fight to that guy. The shots to the balls didn't help, Im sure.
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