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post #16 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-06-2012, 02:42 PM
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...Probably a classic example for having a bike too powerful for you to handle!
It had nothing to do with the bike's power; It had everything to do with riding like an idiot.

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It had nothing to do with the bike's power; It had everything to do with riding like an idiot.
Idiot might have been better off on a 250. He whouldn't have had the power to pass all those riders!

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No. He wasn't accelerating hard before the crash. He was just going too fast. Well, going too fast considering he made almost no attempt to make the bike turn.

That crash could have been accomplished on any bike from a Ninja 250 to a Hayabusa to a Gold Wing.

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Such technicality people..

BUT I think he accelerated way before, which made him mess up the line, to which he tripped out and ended up target fixating on that curve.

Like I said, he wouldn't have been in that situation on a 250 because he would have been stuck behind the other riders.

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Like I said, he wouldn't have been in that situation on a 250 because he would have been stuck behind the other riders.
...and bowling pin a bunch of them at that corner instead.

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Such technicality people..

BUT I think he accelerated way before, which made him mess up the line, to which he tripped out and ended up target fixating on that curve.

Like I said, he wouldn't have been in that situation on a 250 because he would have been stuck behind the other riders.
It's not a technicality, it's an attempt to have a meaningful conversation. Saying he was on a ZX-10R instead of a GSX-R1000 would be a technicality.

A case of riding a bike over his head would be (and I thought was going to be) where he passes all those bikes at "ludicrous speed" and then has trouble getting stopped in time for the road in front. This actually happens a LOT, especially to new riders on 600SS bikes. They don't realize how fast speed builds once you hit the powerband (because they're "respecting" the bike), they get out there trying to pass, and by the time they get back in their lane, the rear of a car is suddenly coming up at 130mph.

That's not what happened here - by his account he was going 85mph, which seems about right as far as I can judge; and both his speed and his acceleration for several seconds before the crash were within any bike's capability.

So I disagree with your original point; not on a technicality but on an actual real difference of opinion. It's not clear to me what your new, revised point is.

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all i can say is "Dumba$$!"

i also do not like people passing me in my lane. there WAS a riding buddy of mine that passed me on the right twice. not going THAT fast but still retarded. he said he did it just to get a laugh. i gave him some choice words and he could not believe how it could be unsafe to pass someone on the right in deer country no less. someone got their ID-10-T card renewed i'm thinking.

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It's not a technicality, it's an attempt to have a meaningful conversation. Saying he was on a ZX-10R instead of a GSX-R1000 would be a technicality.

A case of riding a bike over his head would be (and I thought was going to be) where he passes all those bikes at "ludicrous speed" and then has trouble getting stopped in time for the road in front. This actually happens a LOT, especially to new riders on 600SS bikes. They don't realize how fast speed builds once you hit the powerband (because they're "respecting" the bike), they get out there trying to pass, and by the time they get back in their lane, the rear of a car is suddenly coming up at 130mph.

That's not what happened here - by his account he was going 85mph, which seems about right as far as I can judge; and both his speed and his acceleration for several seconds before the crash were within any bike's capability.

So I disagree with your original point; not on a technicality but on an actual real difference of opinion. It's not clear to me what your new, revised point is.

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Oh god........ughhhhhhh..... English is my 2nd language sooooooo whatever you just said at the end.. Can I sayyyyy "case of the technicality of the word "technicality"?"


Bowling pin tho... THAT, is funny.

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Don't even really understand how he managed that.
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ZERO sympathy for that dude...


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Looks like he got a little spooked when that car came the other way as he was entering the turn?

Not sure though.

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Man he fucked that bike up nicely. I think the swinger and motor are about all that is left.
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Man he fucked that bike up nicely. I think the swinger and motor are about all that is left.
What is it with GSXRs and their frames snapping at that particular point. This pic reminded me of this thread

07-08 Gsxr 1000 Frame Breaking Issue, Pics

As for the vid, I'm just glad he didn't take someone out in the process of exhausting his talent in the middle of a corner. Could have been a lot worse had this been a right turn.

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Man he fucked that bike up nicely. I think the swinger and motor are about all that is left.
is that his gauge cluster hanging by the swingarm?

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it'll buff out. a lil gorilla glue and it'll be good as new

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