Take The MSF

MwKid19 · 10-02-2007, 01:38 AM

This guy needs to take the MSF something fierce. Srsly.

YouTube - beginners driving motorcycle

Nimitz87 · 10-02-2007, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MwKid19

This guy needs to take the MSF something fierce. Srsly.

YouTube - beginners driving motorcycle

+1 and to add his cousin can't dance and is fat...

Chad

Coloradoon22 · 10-02-2007, 09:26 AM

lol.. lol.. lol.. lol..

Aceldama · 10-02-2007, 10:24 AM

This thread is amusing since what is being depicted in the video is an actual exercise in the MSF.

Anthonyd5189 · 10-02-2007, 10:35 AM

Kinda, but in the MSF we did the rocking thing with the clutch while just staying in place, and then we rode back and forth across the course...never had to back the bike up 15 feet over and over.

MwKid19 · 10-02-2007, 12:12 PM

Plus we had proper gear on and weren't thinking the whole thing was a joke.

Freshgrease · 10-02-2007, 01:39 PM

I am somewhat biased on MSF. Theres loads of great info, but the class is too short and cramped. 5 hours in Texas heat in full gear at less than 10 mph is killer.

The kid needs to learn the basics of riding and cornering before going into MSF. Had I known, I'd have saved $200. I learned to ride just like what that kid was doing with the exception no one was laughing and an experienced rider was teaching me.

MSF is over-rated, cramped, expensive, and fails to give real-world experience.

MwKid19 · 10-02-2007, 01:46 PM

Ok buddy believe what you want. MSF has saved my life numerous times over. Best 250 I ever spent.

Freshgrease · 10-02-2007, 02:42 PM

The first time I went through, I kept stalling the damn bike because I didn't know squat about manual transmissions. About the 3rd exercise I was asked to leave because I was still having problems with the friction zone. I only stalled the bike a handful of times, but I lost $200 there.

Went and bought the 250, practiced the friction zone for weeks before I started riding to get it firmly implanted in my mind, rode in my private neighborhood going straight for a while, and finally got around to cornering and comming from stops.

I've spent over $400 in MSF. If this were a class that happened in several class sections per month, it would be better than 2 days of riding 5 hours a day. For the few of us who don't do well under extreme marathons of riding in 95F heat in full gear, a week or month long course would be better.

MSF didn't save your life, the skills you picked up and then practiced with experience saved your life.

There just isn't enough time to learn in two days. You didn't learn how to drive a car and get your license in two day, so why would 2-days be enough to operate a machine 10x more diverse and harder to use?

Randomchaos · 10-02-2007, 03:42 PM

Yea, im really confused about whats so funny in the video. People laughing at him? Can anybody understand what they were saying? I was expecting him to crash into the wall, but he was in control the whole time.

EDIT* Also, where does it say he didnt take the MSF course already?

emayer32 · 10-02-2007, 04:07 PM

i cant agree with either side atleast he was learning at slow speed and not jumping right on and taking off down the road learning on grass not the brightest idea either with no were but a wall to hit if something were to go wrong

chas4fz · 10-02-2007, 05:06 PM

Learning to ride a motorcycle in the MSF: $250.

Learning to ride on a GSXR with beers, buddies, and a small grassy area to practice stopping in: Priceless.

MwKid19 · 10-02-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chas4fz

Learning to ride a motorcycle in the MSF: $250.

Learning to ride on a GSXR with beers, buddies, and a small grassy area to practice stopping in: Priceless.

Budo · 10-02-2007, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freshgrease

I am somewhat biased on MSF. Theres loads of great info, but the class is too short and cramped. 5 hours in Texas heat in full gear at less than 10 mph is killer.

The kid needs to learn the basics of riding and cornering before going into MSF. Had I known, I'd have saved $200. I learned to ride just like what that kid was doing with the exception no one was laughing and an experienced rider was teaching me.

MSF is over-rated, cramped, expensive, and fails to give real-world experience.

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The first time I went through, I kept stalling the damn bike because I didn't know squat about manual transmissions. About the 3rd exercise I was asked to leave because I was still having problems with the friction zone. I only stalled the bike a handful of times, but I lost $200 there.

Went and bought the 250, practiced the friction zone for weeks before I started riding to get it firmly implanted in my mind, rode in my private neighborhood going straight for a while, and finally got around to cornering and comming from stops.

I've spent over $400 in MSF. If this were a class that happened in several class sections per month, it would be better than 2 days of riding 5 hours a day. For the few of us who don't do well under extreme marathons of riding in 95F heat in full gear, a week or month long course would be better.

MSF didn't save your life, the skills you picked up and then practiced with experience saved your life.

There just isn't enough time to learn in two days. You didn't learn how to drive a car and get your license in two day, so why would 2-days be enough to operate a machine 10x more diverse and harder to use?

Did you get kicked out of the MSF both times? Because had you gone further you would have noticed that they DO teach you the basics of riding and cornering. I also did it in the same heat, in full gear. Also, if you know how to follow instructions I don't understand how you could stall the bike constantly? They tell you to let the clutch out slowly until you feel the friction zone. Either you were letting it out way too fast (which you should have let it out slowly like they instructed), or you have very weak hand muscles and can't hold in a clutch lever for more than a few seconds.

And the MSF is not intended to teach you how to ride... Otherwise it would be called the Motorcycle Training School, or Motorcycle Riding School. The MSF is meant to teach safety to riders. Hence the emergency braking maneuvers and swerving maneuvers.

ledtrip · 10-02-2007, 10:18 PM

only cost me $150 to take the MSF, it was a ton of fun and I think everyone should have to take it before jumping on a bike.