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Old 01-29-2008, 12:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You guys got it. The one thing I also like to bring is a small tarp. I've been caught in the rain before and it is nice to be able to set up some overhead cover if possible. I usually bring some "5/50" cord and some bungees to stretch it tight. This way I can sit under it and eat instead of cowering down in either my little one or two man tent. During the summer I don't even bother with a tent, just a mummy bag with a waterproof cover.
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:25 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Here's a pic of my bike fully loaded. I gave up camping years ago and started staying in motels. I find I can spend more time riding and less time messing with bungee cords, extra gear, looking for camp sites, etc.

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Heh, always good to learn something new when reading through posts like this!

For a simple overnight stay, tent and sleeping pads are a must. Even though I have a thermarest, I opted for the bulkier and so-much-more-comfortable inflatable sleeping pad. It provides a bit more insulation from the ground and is almost like sleeping on a mattress.

I second the Teton II tent. It packs small and has plenty of room inside. A premade ground tarp is available (you could make your own) which will extend the life of your tent. I found a decent 32° mummy bag at Academy for around $35 that packs very small. I can fit all this and an inflatable pillow into a tailbag.

The rest is optional. It depends on what you want to do other than riding, or what kind of riding you're doing (as far as weather changes are concerned).

Hiking supplies are fantastic because they pack small (and light).

I know you're not into cooking, but I'm terribly fond of my pocket rocket and MSR aluminum cookware. Got some great ideas from Cooking the One-Burner Way.

I've had the best fortune at state campgrounds, though it's not a bad idea to call ahead at some places.

I got started the cheap way on my Nighthawk 650:
$20 tent
$20 sleeping bag
$30 thermarest
$5 handmade "custom" ground tarp
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:29 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Nice looking bike Geoff.
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If we read through these posts theres a lot of simularities.Great minds think alike!
The best way to learn is too do it.
Don't cheap out on your equipment,take the time to pack it right,nohow to use your stuff before you go,and always have fun!If its not fun you won't do it.Camping not for everybody,but it should be.Good luck!


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About halfway down in that post are pics of some other camping essentials laid out on the picnic table.
Don Julio is no doubt one of those essentials, eh, Tejas?


I can't add anything that hasn't already been said other than to underscore the "don't skimp on the sleeping bag" sentiment. One would assume for the road trips you already have a patch/plug kit and other bike related stuff, if not there are lists of those essentials posted around here somewhere.
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I have always liked to camp out and rough it. I am wanting to take it to the next level and do it on a bike. Nice thread with good stuff. One day.
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Nice looking bike Geoff.
Thanks. The photo was taken at a highway rest area while I was en route to the Sturgis rally in SD.
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Thanks for all the great info guys. This turned into a good thread.

Don't know if I can take the plunge into the whole camping thing. Quite a big change from what I'm used to. Not really something I can get into little by little either. Seems like it's all or nothing. At least I know what to look for now. Thanks again for all the good info.
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Nice Nighthawk!I miss the ones i had,[550,750]those were the days!
Yeah, I miss it sometimes, even though I have the FJR...
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small tent, sleeping bag, mattress pad, and a chair is always nice. Those Kermit chairs rock.. but they are expensive.

I found a ton of good stuff at this site: Outdoor Outlet - camping, backpacking and climbing equipment.
check their "outrageous deals"

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Might also want to check out a Hennessy Hammock, they can be set up as a tent also, and if you use it as a camping hammock, no need for ground cloths and/or mattresses. I'm sure it has it's limtations, (cold weather) but looks like it might be the way to travel light.

I just ordered one (expidition Asym) for $99. I will post back after I try it.
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Keep in mind when looking at the listed tent dimensions it usually is giving the floor size and the walls will come in as they go up reducing your available space. For example lets just say a 4 man tent is 8ftx8ft. I'm 6'4" and will have to lay diagonal in that tent so my head/feet will not touch the sides of the tent. Thats how much space you can lose. It's also nice to have the little extra space while changing clothes and having the storage space to leave things in your tent. You can go very cheap, though. Make sure your tent floor is a tub type (I think thats what its called) that comes up the tent sides a few inches. Most all tents (even most Wal Mart tenst) do this except for the VERY cheap ones, or kids tents.

Oh, if you do go the tent route dont let your stuff touch the inside walls of the tent at night. Whatever is touching (like the foot of your sleeping bag) will end up wet from condensation. The tent can be waterproof and this will still happen. Unless your in the desert or something? When setting up your tent go over the ground fairly well and remove any sticks/rocks that can poke a hole in the tent bottom. No matter how well you think you do you'll miss the one piece that will end up poking you in the back or hip. It never fails. Bed rolls help a bunch!

If your not planning on doing a lot of camping you can get everything you need for under $100 easy. Once you start doing more of it you can figure out what you would like to spend the $ on and what you can make due with just fine.

I have a sleeping bag that has a thin bed roll built into it. Not the greatest, but way better than none at all plus i don't have to worry about keeping up with it.

Also, learn how to set up, take down and repack the tent before you leave. If you've never been camping try to borow a tent from someone and try it out close to home that way you'll have a better idea of what you could be in for. Better off to find out that you hate it before going anywhere. Hopefully you'll like it.

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small brush/dustpan (at a minimum a rag) to clean out the inside of tent and to brush off the bottom while your folding it up to repack.

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A hammock and tarp are perfect for shelter in the summertime. I have a Eagle's Nest hammock and a silnylon tarp (those aren't cheap, least not the good ones) in case it rains. Mine is catenary-cut, so it is sort of like two trapezoids sewn together on the longest sides (well, that is the best way I can explain it anyway).

The hammock compresses down to the size of a grapefruit, and it is strong enough to hold 400 lbs. To me it is more comfortable than sleeping on the ground, but in the winter I have to go to great lengths to keep warm in it so I use the tent.

If you get a tent, make it easy on yourself and get a freestanding one. That way the tent can be setup without having to stake it down first.

Advantages:
If you decide you are on top of a rock or just don't like that guy in the tent next to you that snores, simply unstake the tent and move it, then re-stake it. A non-freestanding would require you to take the tent down, move it, then set it back up.

When you get ready to take down the tent, unstake it hold over head with the door unzipped, and shake out the dirt and leaves before you pack it.

Good online sites for cheap gear:

shop.sportsmansguide.com/default.asp?kwtid=237622
eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices (yes, some of my best finds were here)
Sierra Trading Post - Save 35-70% on Famous Name Brands
REI: Outdoor Gear & Clothing for Skiing, Snowboarding, Snowshoeing, Camping and More (watch for clearance deals, they have an outlet site off the main page too for really discounted stuff)
Outdoor Gear from Campmor - Clothing, Camping Equipment and More - Top Brands including North Face & Columbia Sportswear

Remember that you typically get what you pay for, but there are some cheap gems out there that are as good as the best stuff.

That Teton is a great backpacking and touring tent. The Teton 2

For $100 it is well worth it, and gets lots of use in my collection of tents (I have three). Those huge, obnoxious Wal-Mart dome tents are good for 'car camping' with the family, but too heavy and bulky for touring IMO.

You can get cheap closed cell foam pads at Wal-Mart, and they work fine but do not compact down as much as the inflatable (Thermarest) ones.

Headlamps are a dime a dozen at Wal-Mart - the one difference between most of those and the more expensive ones are that the cheap ones generally lack a regulated circuit so they consume more batteries. If you can readily get batteries that is not a concern, but if you are hiking at dark and are 50 miles from the nearest town you want one that is regulated to conserve power.

Coleman makes a cheap pack stove that works great for cooking for one or two people. Amazon.com: Coleman Exponent F1 Ultralight Backpacker Camp Stove: Sports & Outdoors

Cheap army surplus stores - they have good stuff generally but it may be heavy (canvas backpack anyone? )

Thrift stores and yard sales may have some hidden gems too. If the item is name brand and well cared for chances are it is going to hold up, and you'd pay pennies on the dollar for one.

I dare say that you could comfortably outfit yourself with *everything* you need to camp for $300 or less. Then you have the gear for touring, hiking, or just camping. The bulk of that cost would be sleeping bag and tent, and I would not suggest you skimp on either.

Example:
Teton2 - $100
Kelty Teton 2 Tent from Campmor
Kelty Cosmic 20deg synthetic bag (long) - $70.00
Kelty Cosmic 20° Thermolite Quallo Sleeping Bag Long from Campmor
Thermarest self inflating pad - $40.00
Therm-A-Rest Trail Medium Sleeping Pad from Campmor
Princeton Tec Aurora led headlamp - $16.00
Princeton Tec Aurora Headlamp from Campmor
Brunton Raptor butane stove $40
Brunton Raptor™ Foldable Butane Canister Stove from Campmor
MSR Blacklite cookset $44
MSR BlackLite™ Cookset from Campmor
Fuel cannister - $5
Folding utensils - $15
Alpine Folding Utensils from Campmor

Well, that was just my first shot but all that for $330, and all of it is decent name brand stuff. You could easily buy a backpack and set out with that gear, although eventually you 'd want the more expensive, lighter-weight stuff.
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