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Politics & ReligionWell Since every damn forum has one. Might as well leave it out there. This place is loosely moderated and should not be entered if you're weak of heart.
There are a large number of illegal immigrants however who don't "work hard" or have morals.
Drug dealers and gangs...
That's a socioeconomic issue, not an issue of race or nationality.
Additionally, it's not a "large number" when expressed as something relevant, such as a percentage.
Every often-repeated argument against these hispanic immigrants was also used against german immigrants. "They won't speak the language." "They bring crime." "They won't integrate with the rest of society."
My arguments have nothing to do with race. I have Hispanic friends, black friends, etc.
My next door neighbor is hispanic, doesn't speak a word or ten of English but we get on well. He cuts my grass as a matter of fact. Friendly guy.
I would be against any illegal immigration...black, brown, red, purple, or white given the problems it causes.
You do realize that the "some of my best friends are _________" defense is regarded as, quite possibly, one of the most blatantly racist ones out there, right?
Having ___________ friends doesn't make you not a racist. Not being racist does.
You do realize that the "some of my best friends are _________" defense is regarded as, quite possibly, one of the most blatantly racist ones out there, right?
Having ___________ friends doesn't make you not a racist. Not being racist does.
I'm not a racist...I'm a realist.
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What do Obama and Osama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon!!
Haven't you heard unemployment is at 10+% and climbing.
Not enough work to go around right now.
There "isn't enough work" because of people holding onto money and not looking to expand business or purchase goods/services, not because of the size of the workforce. Clearly, you don't understand the causes and effects of unemployment.
Fact: With twice as many people, all else remaining equal, you can accomplish twice as much work.
Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens. Yet in cities where crime from these lawbreakers is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of gang members from a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have snuck back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, shootings, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should an LAPD officer arrest an illegal gangbanger for felonious reentry, it is the officer who will be treated as a criminal by his own department � for violating the LAPD�s rule against enforcing immigration law.
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LAPD officers recognize illegal deported gang members all the time � flashing gang signs at court hearings for rival gangbangers, hanging out on the corner, or casing a target. These illegal returnees are, simply by being in the country after deportation, committing a felony. "But if I see a deportee from the Mara Salvatrucha [Salvadoran prison] gang crossing the street, I know I can�t touch him," laments a Los Angeles gang officer. Only if the deported felon has given the officer some other reason to stop him � such as an observed narcotics sale � can the officer accost him, and only for that non-immigration-related reason. The officer cannot arrest him for the immigration felony.
The real reason why cities prohibit their police officers and other employees from immigration reporting and enforcement is, like nearly everything else in immigration policy, the numbers. The population of illegal aliens and their legal brethren has grown so large that public officials are terrified of alienating them, even at the expense of annulling the law and tolerating avoidable violence. In 1996, a breathtaking Los Angeles Times expose on the 18th Street Gang, which included descriptions of innocent bystanders being murdered by laughing cholos [gang members], disclosed for the first time the rate of illegal alien membership in the gang. In response to the public outcry, the Los Angeles City Council ordered the police to reexamine Special Order 40. You would have thought they had suggested violating some shocking social taboo. A police commander warned the council: "This is going to open a significant, heated debate." City councilwoman Laura Chick put on a brave front: "We mustn�t be afraid," she said firmly.
Triage. Currently, the only types of aliens who run any risk of catching the attention of immigration authorities are, in ascending order of interest: illegal aliens who have been convicted of a crime; illegal aliens who have reentered the country following deportation without explicit approval of the attorney general (a felony punishable by up to two years in jail); illegal aliens who have been convicted of an "aggravated felony" � a term of art to refer to particularly egregious crimes; and illegal aliens who have been deported following conviction for an aggravated felony and who have reentered. (Aggravated felons become inadmissible for life, whereas mere deported aliens may apply for a visa after 10 years). A deported aggravated felon who has reentered may be sentenced for up to 20 years. The deported Mara Salvatrucha gang members that LAPD officers are seeing back on the streets fall into the latter category: they are aggravated felons who have reentered, and hence are punishable with 20 years in jail.
The continuing surge of illegal and legal migrants is changing American politics, demographics, and culture in ways that have yet to be grasped. But one of the most profound changes is already visible: the breakdown of the distinction between legal and illegal entry. Everywhere illegal aliens receive free public education and free medical care at taxpayer expense. In 13 states, they can get drivers licenses, according to Mexican officials. States everywhere are being pushed to grant in-state college tuition and scholarships to illegal aliens; many accede. One hundred banks, over 800 law enforcement agencies, and dozens of cities accept an identification card created by Mexico to credential illegal Mexican aliens in the United States. The Bush Administration has given its blessing to this "matricula consular" card, over the strenuous protest of the FBI. The massive security loopholes in the card, warns the FBI, make it a natural for money launderers, immigrant smugglers, and terrorists. Border authorities have already caught an Iranian man sneaking across the border with a Mexican matricula card, as well as an alien smuggler with seven cards, each with his picture and a different name.
There "isn't enough work" because of people holding onto money and not looking to expand business or purchase goods/services, not because of the size of the workforce. Clearly, you don't understand the causes and effects of unemployment.
Fact: With twice as many people, all else remaining equal, you can accomplish twice as much work.
Cause and effect is not what is in question here unfortunately for your post.
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What do Obama and Osama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon!!
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