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Old 07-03-2009, 12:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Extending that idea why not also invite a non-loony, right leaning blogger from a conservative site? Although I am hard pressed to name one I would like to see them throw questions at Obama if only for him to completely dispel the rumor du jour dealing with topic at hand on the national stage.

With the HuffPo being decidedly left leaning and POLITICO being centrist it would be needed to invite a right leaning blogger to kill any notion of hiding from hard questions.
Ignoring the fact the Obama campain spent hundreds of thousands trying to control the media as well as covering up his laser printed 1961 birth certificate
Not to mention his voter fraud, what next? What will it take for you not to support this lying piece of shit? is there anything?
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Ignoring the fact the Obama campain spent hundreds of thousands trying to control the media as well as covering up his laser printed 1961 birth certificate
Not to mention his voter fraud, what next? What will it take for you not to support this lying piece of shit? is there anything?
Well, I guess we can cross your name off the invite list for the next presser. You fall plainly into the loony category. Gibby will be so disappointed.
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Well, I guess we can cross your name off the invite list for the next presser. You fall plainly into the loony category. Gibby will be so disappointed.
Is that what educated people are, loony?
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Is that what educated people are, loony?
That type of "education" is prized with the readers of WND, Drudge, and The Weekly World News. The rest of the world considers it loony at best.
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On February 9, 2009 Thomas was present in the front row for newly elected President Obama's news conference regarding the federal bailout bill. President Obama called on her with the statement "Helen. I'm excited, this is my inaugural moment."[18] This was seemingly a reference to her long-term presence in the White House Press Corps.[19] Thomas asked the new president if any Middle Eastern country possessed nuclear weapons. This was an obvious reference to Israel's speculated nuclear weapons arsenal, which both the Israeli and the U.S. governments have refused to acknowledge. Continuing this policy, Obama replied that he didn't want to "speculate" on the matter.

Yeh, the prez of the USA didn't want to "speculate" on the status of our key middle eastern pal's officially ignored (by both the US and Israel) but factually well-established nuclear capabilities--when he, in actuality, knows damn well what they have. Yep, the sparkling new "open & transparent" admin of O dawns--by continuing one of the most asinine official policies of denial of global reality there is.

You libs are an increasingly pathetic bunch, ya know that? When the bum wears an elephant you can manage some rationality---but paste a donkey on em? Poof, gone! Dodging your inconvenient hypocrisy by changing the subject away from your mindless partisanism and desperately diverting to peripheral issues like behavior of the *other* members of the WH press corp and even (for gawd sakes) the WaPo's management's influence peddling fandango?

What a crowd...

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You libs are an increasingly pathetic bunch, ya know that? When the bum wears an elephant you can manage some rationality---but paste a donkey on em? Poof, gone! Dodging your inconvenient hypocrisy by changing the subject away from your mindless partisanism and desperately diverting to peripheral issues like behavior of the *other* members of the WH press corp and even (for gawd sakes) the WaPo's management's influence peddling fandango?

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It's funny that this is obvious to a number of people.

It's very scary that they can't even be honest with themselves and will say anything to support Obama.

There were 'Bush Apologists', but this takes the cake. Now I'm starting to understand the lunacy over the election and how it got out of hand.
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It's funny that this is obvious to a number of people.

It's very scary that they can't even be honest with themselves and will say anything to support Obama.

There were 'Bush Apologists', but this takes the cake. Now I'm starting to understand the lunacy over the election and how it got out of hand.
No logic or reason. Simply US vs THEM and the obligatory Bushco did it.

Its hilarious.

A staple liberal reporter says disparaging words about the Den's crowning glory over there and now she's "not who she used to be".

This is the reason that I will never sign on to either the Democrat or Replublican party, apparently it makes you blind and shuts down higher brain function.
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No logic or reason. Simply US vs THEM and the obligatory Bushco did it.
I'll still go with Obama being the better choice over McCain/Palin. Now that the election is over he's the lesser of two evils. Someone has to hold the position and there were only two choices. Plus Liberals need to get their ideas out into the sunshine so we can sniff it and see if it's what we really want.

But the blind following over anything he does is simply pathetic.

While not everyone here who voted for him worships him, others can see no wrong (or even question) some of the policy and plans coming.

Should the economy & employment not start showing drastic improvement given the record amount of borrowing to make it happen, the shine is going to wear off and a lot of his support will simply vanish as we go into the next cycle to see who promises something different.

Good post, Kat. Try to keep Obama Zombies on topic and ignore the personal attacks.

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I'll still go with Obama being the better choice over McCain/Palin.
Ditto--even if the choice was between horse apples and dogshit.

I actually feel badly that I was right about this O guy from back in the primaries. After he won I supported him (against McCain and his Betty Boop running mate) but after he was elected I wanted to know how the "Man of principle-- or Another Puppet of Unelected Power" question would play out.... well, like i said--I was right about him back in the primary season. Sadly. Just another in a long line of presidential "occupants" (in any substantive way).
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Ditto--even if the choice was between horse apples and dogshit.

I actually feel badly that I was right about this O guy from back in the primaries. After he won I supported him (against McCain and his Betty Boop running mate) but after he was elected I wanted to know how the "Man of principle-- or Another Puppet of Unelected Power" question would play out.... well, like i said--I was right about him back in the primary season. Sadly. Just another in a long line of presidential "occupants" (in any substantive way).
And others here know I would have supported a Hillary presidency. Actually my first choice of the 3. Bill Clinton was liked internationally. And I doubt if we would be borrowing as much or planning as many changes to established systems in such a rush.

Hillary would have had a more hands-off approach to many things and focused on one thing at a time. I think she's considerably more moderate.

Some of the things people warned us about concerning Obama (that most didn't want to believe or would like to overlook) are coming true.

The Thomas article is just one of many things to come I'm afraid.
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Ignoring the fact the Obama campain spent hundreds of thousands trying to control the media as well as covering up his laser printed 1961 birth certificate
Not to mention his voter fraud, what next? What will it take for you not to support this lying piece of shit? is there anything?

You're bringing up the birth certificate and voter fraud conspiracies again? And you want to be taken seriously?



FWIW: It doesn't matter if the copy of his BC was printed off a laser printer. If it bears the embossed seal of the state, it is as valid as the original. The embossed seal and signature on the bottom are all that's needed.


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It fucking well better matter, I have to meet better qualifications to bid on goddamn federal jobs and that worthless fuck seems to have skated by on everything.
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It fucking well better matter, I have to meet better qualifications to bid on goddamn federal jobs and that worthless fuck seems to have skated by on everything.

How so?

The BC was posted on the internet, for all to see. Wether it is the original or a copy of the original does not matter; when the embossed seal of the state of Hawaii is put onto it, it becomes as valid as the 48 year old original.


This argument has been rehashed so many times that it isn't worth doing it again. I'll just end it with this thought:


IF Obama were truly not legally able to be POTUS, don't you think the Clintons would've exposed it during the primary? Hillary was fighting for her life after Super Tuesday, and the tide was shifting to Obama. She is the wife of a former POTUS. Don't you think Bill could've found out SOMETHING? If there were any truth to this BC conspiracy, the Clintons would've found it. Period. Hillary would've killed to get the nomination last year.


But, nothing came of it. Nothing was found. And Barack Obama was elected our President.


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How so?

The BC was posted on the internet, for all to see. Wether it is the original or a copy of the original does not matter; when the embossed seal of the state of Hawaii is put onto it, it becomes as valid as the 48 year old original.
stated as the original, do you remember laser printers in 1961?
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This argument has been rehashed so many times that it isn't worth doing it again. I'll just end it with this thought:


IF Obama were truly not legally able to be POTUS, don't you think the Clintons would've exposed it during the primary? Hillary was fighting for her life after Super Tuesday, and the tide was shifting to Obama. She is the wife of a former POTUS. Don't you think Bill could've found out SOMETHING? If there were any truth to this BC conspiracy, the Clintons would've found it. Period. Hillary would've killed to get the nomination last year.


But, nothing came of it. Nothing was found. And Barack Obama was elected our President.


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The clintons were swept under a rug for the messiah, for a charismatic young man that really started a phenomenon, people rarely act rational in such cases, and this was one of them.
Also the voting fraud was swept under the rug which would have done under most other candidates, it was a no win for anyone but the Obama train, many were willing to ride with it just so long as their own agenda could blossom under it.

Good post though nick.
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