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This is just scary
Big Brother cutting insurance bills - MSN Money
Letting big brother ride around with me? I don't freaking think so.
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How it works
A device that plugs in under your steering column collects data on your mileage, when you drive, how often you drive and how you drive. That information is automatically sent to Progressive from the device via a cellular connection. Conventional factors such as your age, location, vehicle and driving record are still used in addition to usage in setting your car insurance premium.
"This empowers you to control your insurance costs," Hutchinson says. Savings can be as much as 60% on the liability and property-damage portion of your bill (that's if you're sitting at home most days).
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Great so we all get basically GPS tracking, and god only KNOWS who all can access it? Yeah thanks I'll pass.
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This seems to be the best way to treat an engine. Used to work in a shop that had older cars which were babied in for carbon deposit problems. Running the engine up to redline every so often usually prevents this from happening.
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We call this the Italian tune up.
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05-16-2009, 06:42 PM
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You won't have a choice in 5 years...or less
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05-16-2009, 06:46 PM
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You won't have a choice in 5 years...or less
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See now that is the handy part about being a computer guy. I wonder if they can keep me and the pack of nerds I work with from being able to spoof, disable or otherwise work to my advantage whatever it is that they foster on me.
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This seems to be the best way to treat an engine. Used to work in a shop that had older cars which were babied in for carbon deposit problems. Running the engine up to redline every so often usually prevents this from happening.
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We call this the Italian tune up.
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05-16-2009, 07:03 PM
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I am sure they will manage to embed it like OnStar where if you try to disable it, you disable the car. People who think the proposal to tax driving based miles driven is a joke are truly mistaken. This will become a reality soon.
Your discount for today will become the standard premium tomorrow, and if you don't comply with their monitoring, next week your premium will go up 10,000%
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"The foundation of national morality must be laid in private families. ... How is it possible that Children can have any just Sense of the sacred Obligations of Morality or Religion if, from their earliest Infancy, they learn their Mothers live in habitual Infidelity to their fathers, and their fathers in as constant Infidelity to their Mothers?"
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05-16-2009, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bumblebee
I am sure they will manage to embed it like OnStar where if you try to disable it, you disable the car. People who think the proposal to tax driving based miles driven is a joke are truly mistaken. This will become a reality soon.
Your discount for today will become the standard premium tomorrow, and if you don't comply with their monitoring, next week your premium will go up 10,000%
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05-16-2009, 07:32 PM
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"The foundation of national morality must be laid in private families. ... How is it possible that Children can have any just Sense of the sacred Obligations of Morality or Religion if, from their earliest Infancy, they learn their Mothers live in habitual Infidelity to their fathers, and their fathers in as constant Infidelity to their Mothers?"
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05-17-2009, 09:44 AM
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05-17-2009, 10:04 AM
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Change you can believe in, baby!
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If you read the article some of this has been in the works since the 90s.
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Originally Posted by lkwinnipesaukee
This seems to be the best way to treat an engine. Used to work in a shop that had older cars which were babied in for carbon deposit problems. Running the engine up to redline every so often usually prevents this from happening.
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We call this the Italian tune up.
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05-17-2009, 10:42 AM
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I can pass this guy...
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... Just put some tin foil around the device and it can no longer send out a signal. easier said than done I'm sure.
This is total BS!
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05-17-2009, 10:51 AM
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The best part is that since its a cellphone transmission anyone that can receive it can track the data.
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Originally Posted by lkwinnipesaukee
This seems to be the best way to treat an engine. Used to work in a shop that had older cars which were babied in for carbon deposit problems. Running the engine up to redline every so often usually prevents this from happening.
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Originally Posted by tom10167
We call this the Italian tune up.
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05-17-2009, 11:29 AM
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People...
The fact that people are even agreeing to do this is the scary part. Such sheep...
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05-17-2009, 06:29 PM
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If you read the article some of this has been in the works since the 90s.
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Obama was alive in the 90s, right? It's all his fault!
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05-17-2009, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Lewd Ferrigno
Obama was alive in the 90s, right? It's all his fault!
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Was Clinton's administration, not that I imagine that the Government had much to do with it, they like biometrics and implanted chips.
Tracking cars is to pedestrian.
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Originally Posted by lkwinnipesaukee
This seems to be the best way to treat an engine. Used to work in a shop that had older cars which were babied in for carbon deposit problems. Running the engine up to redline every so often usually prevents this from happening.
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We call this the Italian tune up.
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05-17-2009, 07:22 PM
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Was Clinton's administration, not that I imagine that the Government had much to do with it, they like biometrics and implanted chips.
Tracking cars is to pedestrian.
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It was the automotive industry trying to get out of paying liability for product defects, actually.
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05-17-2009, 07:35 PM
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Just wait until this thing gets approved...
Saudi 'Killer Chip' Implant Would Track, Eliminate Undesirables
Friday, May 15, 2009
It could be the ultimate in political control — but it won't be patented in Germany.
German media outlets reported last week that a Saudi inventor's application to patent a "killer chip," as the Swiss tabloids put it, had been denied.
The basic model would consist of a tiny GPS transceiver placed in a capsule and inserted under a person's skin, so that authorities could track him easily.
Model B would have an extra function — a dose of cyanide to remotely kill the wearer without muss or fuss if authorities deemed he'd become a public threat.
The inventor said the chip could be used to track terrorists, criminals, fugitives, illegal immigrants, political dissidents, domestic servants and foreigners overstaying their visas.
"The invention will probably be found to violate paragraph two of the German Patent Law — which does not allow inventions that transgress public order or good morals," German Patent and Trademark Office spokeswoman Stephanie Krüger told the English-language German-news Web site The Local.
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