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Experts: Al Qaeda Tape Demonstrates that It Feels Threatened by Obama Victory | National Security Network
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Counter-terrorism expert Richard Clarke explained, "Most of all, by returning to American values the world admires, Obama sets al Qaeda back enormously in the battle of ideas, the ideological struggle which determines whether al Qaeda will continue to have significant support in the Islamic world." Having thrived on the decline in America's world image, the impact of Obama's victory provides a direct challenge to Al Qaeda's negative depiction of the United States. Additionally, Obama's emphasis on shifting US attention from Iraq to Afghanistan represents a direct physical threat to Al Qaeda's leadership. America's improved global image and the new administration's focus on Afghanistan threatens Al Qaeda and has led to what experts see as a confused, racist, and off-kilter response reflective of an organization on the defensive.
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Simple answer: yes.

Slightly more complex answer: al Qaeda is going to have a tough time rabble rousing against a guy named Barack Hussein Obama, even if he is the US President and a Christian. He is of Kenyan and Arab descent. It will be kinda tough for al Qaeda to stir up the level of hatred, especially if Obama shows a willingness to deal with the Islamic world fairly. Add in the fact that a whole lot of people in the middle east have a relative or know somebody in the West and it gets even more difficult for al Qaeda to stir.

Even more complex answer: What Richard Clarke said.

Obama will only have a honeymoon, though, and then it will be back to business as usual for al Qaeda.
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Simple answer: yes.

Slightly more complex answer: al Qaeda is going to have a tough time rabble rousing against a guy named Barack Hussein Obama, even if he is the US President and a Christian. He is of Kenyan and Arab descent. It will be kinda tough for al Qaeda to stir up the level of hatred, especially if Obama shows a willingness to deal with the Islamic world fairly. Add in the fact that a whole lot of people in the middle east have a relative or know somebody in the West and it gets even more difficult for al Qaeda to stir.

Even more complex answer: What Richard Clarke said.

Obama will only have a honeymoon, though, and then it will be back to business as usual for al Qaeda.
Good analogy, however do not forget that Al qaeda is a loose nit organization with cells operating independently.
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Good analogy, however do not forget that Al qaeda is a loose nit organization with cells operating independently.
Yes, they are. The central command, for what it's worth, may lose some of the cells since the fork tailed devil they have loved to hate, dumb'ya, is now passing from power. dumb'ya was a walking recruiting poster for al Qaeda. O'Bama may be the Irish guy and worse yet, an American, but he's not near the lightening rod dumb'ya is as far as the world is concerned.
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Simple answer: yes.

Slightly more complex answer: al Qaeda is going to have a tough time rabble rousing against a guy named Barack Hussein Obama, even if he is the US President and a Christian. He is of Kenyan and Arab descent. It will be kinda tough for al Qaeda to stir up the level of hatred, especially if Obama shows a willingness to deal with the Islamic world fairly. Add in the fact that a whole lot of people in the middle east have a relative or know somebody in the West and it gets even more difficult for al Qaeda to stir.

Even more complex answer: What Richard Clarke said.

Obama will only have a honeymoon, though, and then it will be back to business as usual for al Qaeda.

Wow, for some reason I agree with you. Good analysis.
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Radical Islam has a hatred for us so deep even your chosen one can't fix it....

Scared of Obama? I think not. These mother fuckers blow themselves up for their beliefs. As long as We stand for what we do and they stand for what they do, they will want to see us all dead.
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^^^ cool I say let radical islam and radical christianity and buddism battle it out. I got some lawn chairs, we will have a BYOB party and watch the show. who's in?
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^^^ cool I say let radical islam and radical christianity and buddism battle it out. I got some lawn chairs, we will have a BYOB party and watch the show. who's in?
holy shit there's radical buddhists too??...how 'bout we sit and watch the islamists and the buddhists go at it...then we got next with the winner....
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Yeah but the buddhists only torch themselves.

I think that whether the motivation is political, social, or political it really becomes about propaganda. The primary motivation for islamic terrorists is that the evil west is oppressive to the good and holy middle east. It becomes harder to believe that (to the average muslim) when the west has elected a president who appears to have ties to islam. The job of the al-qaeda leadership has just gotten a little bit harder.
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Yeah but the buddhists only torch themselves.

I think that whether the motivation is political, social, or political it really becomes about propaganda. The primary motivation for islamic terrorists is that the evil west is oppressive to the good and holy middle east. It becomes harder to believe that (to the average muslim) when the west has elected a president who appears to have ties to islam. The job of the al-qaeda leadership has just gotten a little bit harder.
Not really, remember they dislike our way of life as we..

Al queda in Philipeans for example are fighting to bring Communism back, you people need to understand that there is no central leadership in Alqueda, Osama was merely a money man and a figure head that suggested actions to be taken.
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holy shit there's radical buddhists too??...how 'bout we sit and watch the islamists and the buddhists go at it...then we got next with the winner....
After seeing christian aid organizations perform during the tsunami's denying people food and help unless they convereted out of the three, I am more than happy to see that side go first and buddist lasts.

that will piss off some people, but I have had enough of christianity and its tainted history.
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taint. Heh.

Blurr makes a good point. al Queda is a tough nut to crack because of it's lose affiliation. Common warfighting tactics like taking out command and control functions aren't going to work as well. But he mentions and then misses the point of why whacking a dude like Osama is important. Besides being the figure head, he's the money man. And cutting off funds is a critical part of this.
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taint. Heh.

Blurr makes a good point. al Queda is a tough nut to crack because of it's lose affiliation. Common warfighting tactics like taking out command and control functions aren't going to work as well. But he mentions and then misses the point of why whacking a dude like Osama is important. Besides being the figure head, he's the money man. And cutting off funds is a critical part of this.
He's A money man, and yes killing him would make an impact (he's probably already dead) on at least the middleast cells. Anything can help.
And I cannot believe jerome is agreeing with me, IM gonna go get some coffee.
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^^^ cool I say let radical islam and radical christianity and buddism battle it out. I got some lawn chairs, we will have a BYOB party and watch the show. who's in?
what?? start the Crusades again and add Buddists. I wonder if it would last longer than the original. What was it, like 180 YEARS??
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