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Politics & ReligionWell Since every damn forum has one. Might as well leave it out there. This place is loosely moderated and should not be entered if you're weak of heart.
With any luck, this'll be the chemo we need to finally fight off the hyper-religious former-democrat cancer we've been infected with ever since Roe v. Wade.
Or it'll just metastasize and we're completely fucked.
Libertarians are just Republicans who got kicked out of their own party by the Jesus freaks.
^^ This is what I dislike about the LP. Perception is a difficult thing to overcome.
Maybe a bunch of Libertarians will rise up and take over the GOP.
There’s a reason for this. Any candidate with real intelligence, judgment, and expertise would not support the policies of the Republican party platform, plain and simple. As long as those basic policies remain unchanged, the candidates who will succeed must be able to practice deep denial while acting with full confidence in their righteousness. This means the qualifications to be the GOP nominee are mostly ones of psychological imbalance and theatrical skill. To change that situation, the entire policy agenda of the Republican party would have to change, and that simply isn’t going to happen.
Wow. This is the kind of brutal honesty that I haven't seen from right wingers in forever.
He's basically saying that they have NO ONE capable or qualified to run. No one in the Republican Party right now is good enough to run. He's also saying that the Republican Party is bankrupt of ideas that people respond to.
This guy speaks the truth. Too bad the crazy evangelical wingers will never listen to him.
I predict a good long while for the Republican Party out in the wilderness. With no coherent message, no real leadership, and no unity within the party, they will not be able to form a decent opposition to the Dems. This election was a showing of extraordinary unity among Democrats, and if that continues, the R's have no chance.
The shoe is on the other foot. Usually it's the Republicans that toe the party line without deviation, and the Dems end up looking like a herd of cats, with no recognizable message. Now, though, it's the R's that are in disarray. It's actually quite funny to watch.
My gosh a Dem. gets elected to the presidency for the third time in three decades and its all over for the Repubs now???
Thats only part of it. They (dems) also have picked up 58 seats in congress in the last two elections. As long as the reps keep running on "god, gays, and abortion" they will continue to lose. A perfect example was prop 8 in cali. 65% of those under 30 said no to prop 8, I believe. If the repubs want to claim back the congress and the WH, they need to either forget about social issues, or at least moderate on them, and go back to issues of [i]actual[i] conservatism- fiscal and personal responsibility, limited govt and respect for the constitution. Honestly, i wish gay marriage and abortion were on the ballot this year, nationwide, just to get them out of the way once and for all.
But the far right (read religious nutbags) doesnt want that, because then they would have nothing to run on.
I think the GOP has at least one more spanking in them. Old conservatives support the idea of the Libertarian party, but they don't have a network of local and state politicians to draw from like the GOP. Until the GOP starts losing elections at the local level, I don't see much change coming soon.
All of their big-names like Barr are defectors. I don't know if you can base a national party on former members of another party; Libertarians have to start winning a ground war first.