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Cracks me up thinking any GOP contributors to the RNC here wind up paying for one of Palin's girdles or something.
Friggin' riot.
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My boss received a certified letter the other day. I thought it was something important, right? Had to sign for it and everything. Turned out to be a request for more money for the McCain campaign. Pathetic. I wonder how many more skirts she needed?
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10-22-2008, 07:35 AM
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She's not a wealthy blueblood and obviously did not possess a wardrobe suitable for a Vice Presidential campaign. She's a regular person. I don't see any problem whatsoever with the RNC dressing her, and I'm sure the people who donate to the RNC don't either. Besides, if you didn't donate to the RNC, it doesn't affect you in the least, so I don't know why you care.
Looking at the results, I'd say it's money well spent.
You guys are just jealous, because your women look like this:

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10-22-2008, 08:28 AM
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She's not a wealthy blueblood and obviously did not possess a wardrobe suitable for a Vice Presidential campaign. She's a regular person.
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So making $1 million dollars a year is now not considered wealthy?
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10-22-2008, 08:39 AM
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So making $1 million dollars a year is now not considered wealthy?
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Ok here you are just plain full of shit, and you have your DailyKos propaganda confused. The Palins have a net worth of close to $1 million, consisting mostly of their home and a retirement portfolio. They've never made anywhere close to $1 million a year in income.
The Palins reported taxable income in 2007 of $166,080, consisting largely of Palin's salary as governor. The couple paid $24,738 in taxes, at a tax rate of around 15 percent.
In 2006, the couple reported taxable income of $127,869, mainly Todd Palin's income from BP Exploration Alaska. That year, the couple paid $11,944 in taxes, for a tax rate of just under 10 percent.
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10-22-2008, 08:43 AM
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Ok here you are just plain full of shit, and you have your DailyKos propaganda confused. The Palins have a net worth of close to $1 million, consisting mostly of their home and a retirement portfolio. They've never made anywhere close to $1 million a year in income.
The Palins reported taxable income in 2007 of $166,080, consisting largely of Palin's salary as governor. The couple paid $24,738 in taxes, at a tax rate of around 15 percent.
In 2006, the couple reported taxable income of $127,869, mainly Todd Palin's income from BP Exploration Alaska. That year, the couple paid $11,944 in taxes, for a tax rate of just under 10 percent.
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So again, that's not enough to put together a nice wardrobe?
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10-22-2008, 08:50 AM
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So again, that's not enough to put together a nice wardrobe?
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For a VP campaign? Fuck no. They're a family of 5. The RNC has spent as much on her as the Palins make in a year. And again, what does it matter if you didn't contribute to the RNC?
Would it kill you to just admit you were wrong?
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10-22-2008, 08:53 AM
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For a VP campaign? Fuck no. They're a family of 5. The RNC has spent as much on her as the Palins make in a year. And again, what does it matter if you didn't contribute to the RNC?
Would it kill you to just admit you were wrong?
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What am I wrong about?
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10-22-2008, 09:12 AM
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What am I wrong about?
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Holy shit. Dude you better get yourself checked for early-onset Alzheimers. You already forgot what you said 5 posts ago.
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So making $1 million dollars a year is now not considered wealthy?
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10-22-2008, 09:17 AM
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Don't worry Republicans, you'll get that 150K back.
Sarah says after the campaign she's putting all those clothes on E-bay!

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10-22-2008, 09:27 AM
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Don't worry Republicans, you'll get that 150K back.
Sarah says after the campaign she's putting all those clothes on E-bay!

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She should either keep them, or give them to either my wife or AC. Nobody else would look as good in them.
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10-22-2008, 09:31 AM
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Don't worry Republicans, you'll get that 150K back.
Sarah says after the campaign she's putting all those clothes on E-bay!
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That's funny. She could put a package deal together with the airplane.
And judging by all the free travel for the kids, it appears the state of AK would have been better off hanging on to it.
Choosing Palin was the biggest freaking gamble McCain took in his campaign.
And he lost. It's like having the numbers covered and backed, along comes Sarah, with her "you betchas" and "doggones," you hand her the dice and she throws a seven. Craps. Line away. AMF.
This is so in keeping with the gambling mentality. Gamblers like McCain always go for the 3-pointer; the game changer; some dramatic event which provides the absolute rush of a win. And when they lose, they just walk away and come back another day.
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10-22-2008, 09:32 AM
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Holy shit. Dude you better get yourself checked for early-onset Alzheimers. You already forgot what you said 5 posts ago.
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I know what I posted but I wanted to know "what" I was wrong about. Okay, so I was wrong about them making $1 million and it's worth. However, that's more than we're worth and we dress nice and can afford nice clothes. There is nothing that says you have to wear Donna Karan or Dolce and Gabbana to be a politician.
So I fail to see how this is a need.
Oh and for the record it seems there was a minor discrepancy regarding a W2 that has not been answered.
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Overall, the Palins reported a gross income of $127,869 in 2006, and paid taxes amounting to $11,944 (an effective rate of 9.3 percent). In 2007, the family reported earning a gross income of $166,080 ($107,987.00 of which came from Gov. Palin) and paid taxes totaling $24,738, for a rate of 14.9 percent.
But there is some discrepancy with the latter number. According to an accompanying 2007 personal financial disclosure report, Palin's "income" as governor of Alaska was $196,531.50, well above the $107,987.00 that was noted on her W2 form from that same year. An email was sent to the McCain campaign for clarification. And this story will be updated should aides reply.
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10-22-2008, 10:03 AM
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She's not a wealthy blueblood and obviously did not possess a wardrobe suitable for a Vice Presidential campaign. She's a regular person. I don't see any problem whatsoever with the RNC dressing her, and I'm sure the people who donate to the RNC don't either. Besides, if you didn't donate to the RNC, it doesn't affect you in the least, so I don't know why you care.
Looking at the results, I'd say it's money well spent.
You guys are just jealous, because your women look like this:

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Heh. You're funny - in a retarded, banging-your-head-on-a-desk kind of way.
What kind of wardrobe does someone need to run for VP? Is it different than what you'd need to run for governor? Or to be a governor? Was Palin going to the office in fucking mukluks and wolf pelts before McCain picked her?
Mrs. Dork is an executive so I get a front-row seat for the joy of buying clothes for the professional workplace. Even if you shop at Saks and Neiman-Marcus, you don't get to $125K in a couple of shopping trips unless you say something like "gimme two of everything". That's not a few suits, that's a wardrobe you'll need a fucking Ryder truck to haul around.
If the bill only went to RNC donors is irrelevant. Aside from the infamous joke about being caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy, the two worst things any candidate can do is 1) show themselves to be a hypocrite, and 2) do something that confirms a negative quality voters see in you. This hits both.
Hockey moms, Joe Sixpacks and Joe the frigging plumber can not even comprehend dropping the equivalent of a three bedroom ranch on clothes. This is especially true for women. Spending that kind of cash on clothes is not an admirable quality among women. It's seen as piggish.
But I think the more severe damage is that it undermines Palin's claims to be a reformer. She talks about cleaning up government, but when she gets into a new office, or even run for one in this case, she can't stick her nose in the trough fast enough. This is someone who charged Alaska taxpayers $17K to sleep in her own home and almost $25K for her kids to travel on "official business". There are serious questions about how their house was built. She gets the chance to get some clothes for her appearance at the convention at the RNC's expense, and she runs up a tab for 125 Large.
And this comes at the same time voters are fuming over Wall Street execs who took huge bonuses while driving their companies off a cliff and then asking for the taxpayers to bail them out. This is a really shitty time for anyone to pose as a man or woman of the people and then take a six-figure free ride from others.
I didn't write about this yesterday because I wasn't sure if it would get any traction. It didn't on the cable TV shows, probably because they have to spend more on clothes for work than any other profession. But today it's obvious that it is pissing off almost everyone else. I watched a little Morning Joe today and they were flooded with angry emails after Mika Brzezinski tried to say it wasn't a big deal. Now it's in the lead story rotation on all the cable networks, and I think it's just getting started. This is probably going to be in the news through the end of this week.
This will cost McCain votes, maybe enough to give Obama a win in places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Indiana. It's also going to seriously hurt her chances in the GOP for 2012.
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10-22-2008, 10:12 AM
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^^ BHD, you're nuts. "This is going to cost him votes"? LOL. From who? Certainly not from people who are already voting for McCain. Why would indepdent swing voters care, unless they contributed to the RNC?
What's worse, Sarah Palin's wardrobe, or Obama's Marxist plan to redistribute income, increase taxes, kill jobs, and increase government spending?
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10-22-2008, 10:40 AM
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^^ BHD, you're nuts. "This is going to cost him votes"? LOL. From who? Certainly not from people who are already voting for McCain. Why would indepdent swing voters care, unless they contributed to the RNC?
What's worse, Sarah Palin's wardrobe, or Obama's Marxist plan to redistribute income, increase taxes, kill jobs, and increase government spending?
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For independent voters and soft Republicans, Palin's wardrobe is worse. No contest.
The wingnut rant that Obama's tax plan is Marxist is backfiring on you guys. Have a look at this McClatchy poll out this morning - Obama leads McCain on taxes by eight points.
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On taxes, for example, likely voters now prefer Obama over McCain by a margin of 8 percentage points. This is despite a concerted effort by McCain and running mate Sarah Palin to cast Obama as a tax-and-spend liberal who'd raise taxes on ordinary folks such as Joe the Plumber, an Ohio man whom McCain cited repeatedly in the last debate and since then in ads and on the campaign trail.
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This is an issue where Republicans normally dominate, and one that McCain has hammered in the last two weeks, and he's losing ground. It's preaching to the choir, the only people responding to this are people like you who already support McCain.
Palin's wardrobe malfunction is going to hurt him among independents and soft Republicans. If they donated to the RNC is irrelevant. This is about judgment and doing something totally out of character with the kind of person Palin claims to be. That's political death.
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